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The Gang Finds a Dumpster Baby

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20. The Gang Finds a Dumpster Baby

On the pod, the guys revisit The Gang Finds a Dumpster Baby from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia Season 3, Episode 1.


Glenn Howerton: All right. I might need help getting these on.

Rob McElhenney: Great. Let's wait. Save it. Save it.

Charlie Day: Oh, buddy.

Rob: Save it. Save it. Save it. Save it. Save it.

Charlie: Oh buddy.

Megan Ganz: Oh, we're recording.

Rob: Are we recording?

Megan: Yeah, we are. There we go.

Glenn: Oh, thank you, Megan.

Charlie: Oh, man.

Megan: Is that good?

Rob: Oh, boy.

Glenn: You guys are definitely gonna see me wince, uh, a number of times over the course of this, uh, uh, podcast. I will be wincing, um, because the pain medication has not quite kicked in yet.

Rob: Now, what are we on?

Glenn: Uh, well, uh, ju-just, uh, Tylenol and Percocet.

Rob: Okay.

Glenn: Yeah, which I had to fight really hard to get because the opioid crisis is-is-- has basically made things like impossible to get something. And it's like, you know, I have a broken bone, I-I-I think like I should be to-- Like, the orthopedist that I went to, um, who by the way said I was gonna heal in three weeks and I didn't need surgery so that's-- that's good- that's good news, couldn't prescribe me, um, a narcotic. And I'm like, "You're a surgeon. Like, you just-- I have a broken bone. Like, you can't give me some-" 'cause they gave me Percocet at the, uh, ER and, uh, and it worked like it works. It does-- it does what it's supposed to do. It like-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -makes you not feel the pain. You know what I mean? And then when I ran out of that and just was using Tylenol, I was like, "This is horrible".

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: I'm in horrendous pain.

Charlie: They say, though, if you combine the Tylenol with an ibuprofen-

Glenn: Yes.

Charlie: -that it's as effective as a-a narcotic but-- and you don't have live the sort of like, um-

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah.

Charlie: -either a speedy or like a super fatigue thing.

Rob: You don't get the fun part?

Glenn: You don't get the fun part, but if it's--

Charlie: If it's fun for you. If it's fun. For some pe--

Glenn: Yeah, some people don't like it.

Charlie: Yeah, some people don't feel right on it.

Glenn: Uh, I also find it hard to believe this is gonna heal in three weeks. I snapped my collarbone in half. Uh, I don't really understand. But, uh, that's what he said and-- Yeah.

Rob: Now, can you tell us the comedic version of what happened or is it just gonna be like a drag?

Charlie: Yeah, like did you-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -did you do a funny kind of like, "Get into a garbage can"? And was there like a--

Rob: Se-- Tell us the sto-- Mm.

Charlie: Uh-huh.

Rob: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Glenn: It was the, uh-- it was the last-- okay. So, uh, my wife and my-- I took my wife and kids and nephew. And, uh, we-we all went snowboarding in Mammoth, uh, which we do many, many times a year, every year. I've been doing this for a long time. And, uh, it was on the last run of the last day. And the-the crazy thing is I was-- I was at the top, and I was talking to my buddy, Shane, who lives-- You maybe even met Shane. Have you met Shane, uh, Jill's friend from high school, who lives in Mammoth, Shane Henness?

Rob: Um, n-no.

Glenn: So Shane, uh, he always comes out and boards with us. He lives in Mammoth and, uh- and we were at the top. And I-I told Shane, I was like, "Yeah, this is my last run". And he goes, "Oh, no". He's like, "Dude, never say that. Never say that. That's really bad luck". And I was like, "Really?" And he was like, "Yeah, that-- that-- you've never heard that?". I'm like, "No". I was like-- I was like, "Okay". And I made a joke, I was like- I was like, "This is not my last run. I'm going to go on a number of runs from--

Charlie: Do you think because he said that to you, you were maybe a little extra tight or something lik--

Glenn: I don't know but it-- but I-I-- you know, And he felt really bad, too, because I think he thought maybe that got in my head.

Charlie: Like he was just joking around. But--

Glenn: No, it is-- it is an actual superstition amongst uh-

Charlie: Sure.

Glenn: -skiers and snowboarders.

Rob: Can we set the scene a little bit more? B-- So the-- Because there are viewers now, but there-- there are listeners who have no idea what we're talking about.

Glenn: What do you mean?

Rob: We haven't addressed that you've been hurt.

Glenn: Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

Glenn: I'm sorry.

Rob: Right.

Rob: You have a sling.

Glenn: We dove right in. Okay, so we got--

Rob: Glenn has a giant cast that I believe we'll all sign. His, uh- his leg is immobilized.

Charlie: Uh, not a cast, it's a sling.

Rob: His leg is immobilized. No, I'm setting a--

Glenn: He's trying to do a dramatic thing.

Rob: Yeah, I'm just making it more of a thing. Sorry.

Charlie: I-I didn't sleep great last night again.

Rob: Sorry. That's okay. So you didn't sleep great and you're in pain. Okay. This should be-

Charlie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rob: this should be great, Megan.

Glenn: Yeah. He slept great, but his jokes are bad.


Glenn: Um, so, no. Uh, so, okay. So, I broke my clavicle. Um, I snapped my clavicle. Um, I was going off a jump, uh, at the very-- almost the very beginning of a run, I was doing the park.

Rob: Oh.

Glenn: Yeah, it's probably not something a 45-year old man should still be doing.

Charlie: Yeah, I was gonna say, at what age do you stop-

Glenn: Do you stop doing the park?

Charlie: -do you stop jumping?

Rob: What is it-- When do you stop going to parks just in general? Like, I mean, playgrounds more 'cause it's-- they call it a park, but really it's a playground for children. Uh--

Glenn: Well, no. No, it's like big jumps and stuff like that.

Rob: I know, but what I'm saying is it would be equivalent. Like, when you say a park, you think, "Oh, Central Park." It's a nice like-

Glenn: Right.

Rob: -place to-- But what that is is like, uh, an adventure land of moguls and-and jumps.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: And it's quite dangerous.

Glenn: For people who don't ski or snowboard, the park is the-- is the-- a section on certain runs that they have, where they have like, you know, jumps and boxes. They have like features that you can do crazy shit off of on your skis or snowboard. Uh, and I was going off a-a particularly high, big jump. And one that I'd done many times before and landed beautifully. Um, and I did not land beautifully this time. This time I landed right on a corner, and I caught an edge, and it whipped me to the ground

Rob: Oh.

Glenn: -at a speed that is beyond my comprehension because I literally remember I landed on the corner, and then I was on the ground.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: And-and I- and-and I hit my head so hard, so, so fucking hard. Like, if I-- if I didn't have a helmet on, I would 100% be dead, 100%, there's no doubt in my mind I'd be dead right now if I wasn't wearing a helmet. So please everybody out there, when you're snowboarding, when you're skiing, even when you're skiing. I mean, it's more important when you're snowboarding, I think. Because I-I-- because like when you're skiing, you-you kind of-- you tend to fall on your side 'cause your skis are going this way. But when you're on a snowboard, it's so easy to whip backwards.

Rob: Whip backwards, yeah.

Glenn: And fall back on to your head or forward.

Rob: So that's what it was. You whipped backwards when you snow--

Glenn: I don't know. I actually don't know. I don't-- I don't understand how I landed on my should-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Jill was like, "You were on a snowboard. How do you land on your shoulder?"

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Because the board is going--

Rob: Yeah, if you turn-- I guess you turned your body.

Glenn: Yeah, I-- so-- I-I'm not quite sure what happened, but I think I landed on my shoulder first and then, you know, whipped my head into the ground, broke the clavicle. But weirdly, the thing that hurts more than that is the-- is my back. It like jacked my back up really bad. So that's the thing that I'm-- that-that I'm exper- that I'm experiencing the most pain with is-is my back. Um--

Charlie: It's such a- it's such a dangerous sport. You're flying down a mountain.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: You're flying down a mountain and gravity is pulling you down as fast as possible.

Rob: Wasn't there a guy-- there's an actor that just got killed.

Glenn: Yeah, so sad.

Charlie: Yeah, somebody just-- You know, that-that-that--

Rob: Just last week and it's so sad.

Glenn: Yeah, like a French actor, right?

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, I heard about that.

Charlie: People die all the time skiing.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, it's, uh-- I mean-- Yeah.

Charlie: But a-also, I-- the few times that I've gone, it is very fun. It's so fun.

Glenn: It's super fun. You know, and-and, uh, you know, if you're a radical person-

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -who wants to just like shred-

Charlie: Yeah. And you wanna stay radical.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -and you wanna stay radical, and you wanna shred.

Rob: You have to shred. You must shred.

Charlie: I know, but the problem with that like is it's-- I-I imagine now that like Jill is taking care of both your boys and has to like open a can of pees for you, it feels very unradical.

Rob: That's less radical, yeah.

Charlie: You know what I mean?

Rob: Well, for both of you, really 'cause you're sort of an invalid.

Glenn: Y-yeah. You think I eat canned peas?

Charlie: Yeah. No, I know. I'm just trying to--

Glenn: Trying to go wash my kale.

Charlie: She's gonna-- Trying to-- Yeah, yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: She's gotta rinse your kale, yeah. You-you can't do it.

Glenn: It actually hurts to laugh.

Charlie: All right. Okay. Let's try not to make Glenn laugh.

Rob: Oh, wow. Okay. That’s interesting.

Glenn: It does. That's okay. I-I-I'll paraphrase--

Charlie: The price of laughter.

Glenn: -'cause I do enjoy- I do enjoy- I do-do enjoy a good laugh.


Glenn: Uh, I took my shower last night in many, many days. That felt good.

Rob: Great.

Glenn: And bad 'cause it hurt. Everything hurts. It hurts. Um, I don't know if you guys know this, but broken bones hurt.

Charlie: I'd-- I don't really know it.

Rob: I've never broken a bone.

Charlie: Actually, I did. A little-little hairline fracture.

Glenn: But-- So I think I broke a co-- I think I've broken a couple of toes like stubbing them, you know. 'Cause like wherever they've turned like really stiff and blue and swollen, but- uh, but I've never really broken a bone before.

Charlie: Rob was mentioning, um-- Do you wanna bring it up?

Rob: Yeah. Yeah, I-I was listening to the-the most recent podcast, The Gang Exploits A Miracle, um, and I-- Y-you are talking very specifically about doing stunts because you did one where you felt we were talking about how great the stunt was, you fell of a stool.

Charlie: Like a flop off the stool.

Rob: Yeah, and you were like, you know, "Back when I was younger, I would do- I would do those kinds of stunts, and it was like-- it would be fun."

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Rob: "But now I would be nervous that I would like break my shoulder." Have-- You literally say like, "I'm gonna, like, separate my shoulder. So I don't like do stupid things anymore like that 'cause I don't wanna hurt my shoulder."

Glenn: Oh, man.

Rob: Now, can you classify skiing as stupid? Yes, I do think. I-- But also fun. Undeniably fun.

Charlie: There's just a risk involved.

Rob: There's a risk- there's a risk involved.

Charlie: It's like if you wanna ski, you wanna go to-- you wanna ski the park as you said.

Glenn: But, guys--

Charlie: You wanna ride a motorcycle, there's a risk involved.

Glenn: That's how I get off.

Rob: Yeah, um, really sad.

Charlie: I know. I know.

Glenn: You know what I mean?

Charlie: I know.

Glenn: That's how I-- it makes you-- there's something about being just on the edge of breaking something.

Charlie: Of-of breaking something.

Glenn: Or really hurting yourself that like makes you feel alive.

Charlie: Mm.

Rob: Yeah, yeah.

Glenn: You-you know?

Rob: Right. Uh, yeah.

Glenn: I mean, you've gotten pretty-- you've shredded some serious gnar in the past.

Rob: I have, I have, but I've slo- I've slowed down too quickly.

Glenn: When was the last time? Yeah, you don't go-- you don't go that often.

Rob: I went last year. If my kids were super into it, I would go. I-- We didn't learn-- I didn't learn how to ski. The first time I went skiing, I was in-- I was in my 30s, I think. Uh, and-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -the same for you, right?

Glenn: Oh, when-- when we did the episode? Was that the first time you'd ever skied when we did the skiing–

Rob: I had snow-- I had--

Charlie: No, no. He'd, no.  Well, all on your bachelor party.

Glenn: No, but he was snowboarding.

Rob: No, I was snowboarding then, but I learned how to snowboard in my- in my-- like I was 30 or 31.

Glenn: Yeah, same.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: It was just never something we--

Glenn: We learned- we learned at the same time.

Rob: The same time, yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, because, uh, we were going out with Zach Knighton.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: He-he was like taking us to Big Bear and stuff like that, and I'd-I'd been skiing my whole life, but I-I always wanted to try snowboarding.

Rob: It was super fun. I just see more and more people getting very seriously hurt. And I'm like, "I enjoy it, but not enough-

Glenn: Really?

Rob: -for that," yeah.

Charlie: Yeah. I went-- I went, like, twice as a kid to a place called Yawgoo Ski Valley in Rhode Island, so it was more of like a hill than a mountain. There was, like, one chair but you were down at the bottom of the chair in 10 minutes, you know. Uh, and then I didn't go again until your bachelor party. Uh, so I was in my 30s or whatever. And, uh, the very first run, I went with you guys, and you guys all just went flying down the hill. And I was like, "Where the fuck am I?" I'm like, "Oh, I'm on, like, a triple black diamond." I was like-- I can see, like, a cliff to my left.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: And I'm like, "How the fuck am I gonna get down this thing?" And I basically, you know--

Glenn: You'll be fine. You'll be fine, just go.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Just go.

Glenn: Just go.

Charlie: I-- Well, I figure it was like-

Glenn: Don't be a bitch, just go.

Charlie: I know how to ice skate. So maybe it's, like, the edges, so I-I-I-- like, turned to the side, uh, like, do that little jump and turn and then I'm like just stopped.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: I'm like--

Glenn: Well, hold on a second. You ju-- I don't-- And I just--

Rob: You're being really good at it.

Glenn: This is i-- This is what I was about to say.

Rob: Okay.

Glenn: So we talked about this in an earlier episode how-

Rob: Yeah. Charlie's good athlete who just fucking who–

Glenn: -maybe you wouldn't expect it, but Charlie is possibly the best athlete of the three of us. And I think that's definitely true. Aa-and this is just another example of that because I remember you saying, "I haven't skied since I was a kid." And I-I remember thinking like, "Oh, he's gonna-- This is gonna be a little rough." And you looked like somebody who skis not like expert but, like, you-you-you looked like somebody who knew what-

Charlie: Well, I did-

Glenn: -you're doing.

Charlie: -but that was rough. That was going down that black diamond.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: I wind up going down on my butt and then being like, "Fuck, I gotta go back up on this hill." Like, the whole time just being like, trying to survive.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: Yeah, yeah.

Charlie: You know, not really, like, joy riding. Just be like, "Just let me get to the bottom without a broken collar bone."

Glenn: On that first run-- Yeah.

Charlie: But when we did the episode, you and I went out with a ski instructor. And she's like, "I'll have you, uh, going down black diamonds within an hour." And she did, uh, like-- But that was--

Glenn: That’s impressive.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: And she was really good. And, uh, that was the last time I've been on a mountain, so now I feel like if I went again,-

Glenn: You have to, yeah.

Charlie: -I have to relearn it again.

Glenn: No, you-you-you-- it would- it would come back to you. Uh-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -it's in your body. It never goes--

Charlie: I don't want a broken collarbone though.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: You know?

Glenn: Yeah, yeah. Well, it's-it's-it's like you said, it's like is that something that you enjoy so much that you're willing to possibly have a broken collar bone? 'Cause-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -the first thing I thought was, you know, after I really, really hurt my ankle in playing basketball in my late 20s, that pretty much was the end. I mean, I still play basketball occasionally but like I don't really play anymore because of that. And I thought like, "Oh, no." Like, "Am I gonna lose snowboarding?" It's my favorite thing in the world to do. And I was like-- But then I just kind of was like, "You know what? I-I'll-I'll heal and I'm just gonna keep doing it."

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: "I'm just gonna keep doing it because I love it."

Rob: Yeah, it's like motor-- Like, I-I like to ride a motorcycle. I learned how to ride a mo--. I'm like, "Oh, this is fun." But-- And it's not worth it to me to, like, go out and get like mu-murdered on a-- on a freeway. But for so many people, they're like, "The-the risk is worth it to me-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -'cause it's so much fun."

Glenn: Yeah, it's amazing.

Charlie: I kind of see the whole thing gets thrown outta whack when you have kids, right?

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: Like, when you have kids, i-it's no longer just your life, right? Like, uh, if I-- Yeah, it seems like it'd be very cool to zip around on a motorcycle all the time. I think I would enjoy that. But it's-- But I'm also like, "But then if I, totally, no fault on my own, get fucking hit by someone who's texting, right? And then that's it, I'm, like-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -fucked," you know.

Glenn: That's the thing, yeah. So it's like--

Charlie: Or my kid has to feed me through a straw or-or something for the rest of my life 'cause I'm paralyzed. Like-- then that-that-- I don't- I don't feel like I can justify that-

Rob: Yes, because, well–

Charlie: -level of risk. Yeah. Maybe-maybe when they're throughout the door. It's like, "Hey, look, you're 1, and I'm 105. [chuckles] I'm gonna go r-ride motorcycles now," or whatever. But I-- like, that's just me. I think I-- you know, I'm overly cautious with that shit.

Glenn: You're risk-averse.

Charlie: I'm risk-averse, I am.

Rob: You are very risk-averse.

Glenn: Is he?

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: I think so.

Glenn: I wouldn’t–

Rob: Not in an unhealthy way.

Glenn: I wouldn't think-- I'd like-- I-I understand what you're saying, but I-I wouldn't have thought of you that way. That-that being said I’m–

Rob: He's more measured. He's more measured. Like, I-I-- We tend to go, like, all like hot even various things in--

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Uh, not that he doesn't get hot, but he-

Glenn: We're both Aries.

Rob: Charlie's thought-- Yeah. Oh, Christ.

Glenn: Both Aries, you know. That was in the--

Rob: Are you-- is that–

Glenn: It's in the stars.

Rob: Is that a new thing? Oh.

Glenn: It's in the stars.


Glenn: Okay, this is--

Charlie: It's in the stars. Yeah, it was in the stars.

Glenn: This is ancient knowledge, okay. Um, that's never gonna change. Like, where you are born in relation to the stars is who you are. There's nothing you can do about it. You're an Aries. I'm an Aries.

Rob: That's just the way it is.

Glenn: Red hot, and we're just radical by nature.

Charlie: Just radical by nature.

Glenn: I don't know, that's just how it is.

Rob: Oof. That just sounds like a cool band name we should start.

Glenn: Radical by nature.

Charlie: Radical by nature.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Oh, it's ba-- It's good and bad.

Charlie: Too close to Naughty by Nature, right?

Rob: I know, yeah. That's it.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah. And Naughty by Nature is just a better name.

Rob: Well, but we're not naughty. We're radical.

Glenn: [laughs] You've never been naughty?

Charlie: We're radical by reputation.



Charlie: This is the first episode of Season 3.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: So we're picked up for one season? Or the--

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: They picked us up for one season.

Charlie: For one season?

Rob: Yeah. Well, 15 episodes.

Charlie: Uh, 15 episodes, so we're excited about that. We don't realize yet how difficult-

Rob: Daunting.

Charlie: -that's gonna be for us. [chuckles]

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Um, we have an office for the first time-

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: -in Marina del Rey. Uh, couldn’t be further from my house.

Glenn: Playa-- It was actually Playa del Rey.

Charlie: Playa del Rey, that's right.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Uh, good, long commute for me.

Rob: Oh, God.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Crazy.

Glenn: Brutal.

Rob: I-I couldn't believe it.

Glenn: Brutal.

Charlie: Crazy.

Rob: You really took one for the team, I'm sure.

Charlie: I was thinking that it's a real pattern as I drove into-- to this podcast this morning. It's like we've set up a real-- like, never has there-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -ever been an office in my neighborhood.

Rob: Well, no, no.

Charlie: You know, you guys-

Glenn: Right.

Charlie: -have never quite had to hike all the way over there.

Rob: Well, yeah. So the-the office was in Playa del Rey, and people outside of California might not understand the geography. But just-- this-this will give you a good sense where I lived was Marina del Rey, so you–

Glenn: You were right next door.

Charlie: You were in the del Reys.

Rob: You could always-

Charlie: Yes.

Rob: -in the del Reys, you could put them toge--

Charlie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rob: And Glenn was in Venice, which is right next to Marina del Rey.


Rob: So they were all kind of right next to each other.

Charlie: And I was like an hour and a half away.

Rob: You crazy.

Glenn: Might has well have been on another fucking planet.

Charlie: I know.

Rob: Crazy.

Charlie: Uh, I-I didn't mind. I don't mind to drive. But, um, uh, those offices were a dump.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Right? Oh, but we had stages next to them?

Rob: Yes.

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: Also a dump. They weren't really stages. They were- they were, like, out-- They were old f-- like factories or so-something and they had out-- "outfitted" it. But it was also by the airport.

Glenn: Well, that's what I was gonna say. I remember- I remember like those stages 'cause that's the whole point of-of being on a stage, right? It's you're in a very controlled environment where you control the sound and the look and everything, you know. It's, uh-- But you could hear every single airplane.

Charlie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rob: We were literally next to fucking LAX, so every eight minutes, a new plane would go-

Glenn: Right.

Rob: -would go over.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Which you just don't realize. You're not thinking about it, when you're not on a sound stage and everybody's quiet, how often an airplane is going overhead.

Charlie: Yeah. Sound stage is a real generous term for what that was. It was like a warehouse that-

Rob: Right.

Charlie: -like they just finally stopped like using as a chop shop, and they're like, "You want to make a movie here? Yeah, go ahead."

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Is that soundproof?

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Sure.

Charlie: Yeah. What do you-- what do you mean? Like a roof? Yeah, we got a roof. Um--

Glenn: It's not quite what we mean, but, yeah.

Charlie: Yeah. Uh, I think that was the first year we had an assistant.

Glenn: It was.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Adam Stein.

Glenn: Adam Stein.

Rob: Adam Stein, yeah.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Adam was--

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: 'Cause he would get us coffees from Starbucks every morning. And that was the first time I had like someone like getting us a coffee.

Rob: Right. Oh, that felt very Hollywood.

Charlie: It felt very-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -professional.

Rob: "Would you guys like something in the morning?" "Yes, please. I would like a coffee." And then it would be there. You'd-you'd show up and they would hand you a coffee.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: And you'd be like, "This is cold."

Charlie: And we had a writing staff.

Rob: "What the fuck? Go back and get another one-

Charlie: That's right.

Rob: -and make sure it's hot."

Charlie: Scream at him.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah, yeah, immediately.

Glenn: We got to put them in their place.

Charlie: Uh, throw it to his face. And he'd like-- depending on the level of scalding, you know how hot it was.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: You're like, "I'm sorry. That was perfectly hot."

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: this was back, back when you could get away with that.

Charlie: Yeah, yeah. "But give me another."

Rob: You could-- Yeah.

Charlie: Um--

Rob: Give me another one.

Charlie: We had a writing staff for the first time.

Rob: Yes.

Charlie: We had found Rob Rosell.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: Uh, Scott Marder.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: Who at the time were a writing team. Was it Marder and Rosell?

Charlie: Marder and Rosell, who were -

Rob: Yeah, they were.

Charlie: -so funny and brought so much to what the show became.

Glenn: The staff--

Rob: Oh, yeah.

Glenn: Wasn't the staff just Marder, Rosell, and Hornsby, or did we have one--

Rob: Was Lisa Parsons?

Glenn: Oh, we had Lisa Par-- Yeah.

Rob: Yeah, Lisa.

Glenn: I think, yeah.

Charlie: Lisa Parsons.

Rob: I remember Lisa was obsessed with being on, um, Wheel of Fortune.

Charlie: Oh, yeah.

Rob: She really-

Glenn: Oh, yeah, watched every episode.

Rob: -desperately wanted to be on Wheel of Fortune.

Charlie: Right.

Rob: And--

Charlie: I feel like maybe she had been part of the pitch of this episode or-- I can't remember.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: I know she-she was heavily involved in the, uh, The Gang Solves the K-- North Korea Situation.

Rob: Yes.

Glenn: Is that Season 3 or 4?

Charlie: Three.

Glenn: That is three?

Rob: Yeah, I feel like it was three.

Glenn: I always think of it as four. But, yeah, you're right. Okay, never mind.

Rob: Well, ye-yeah. The-- Marder and Rosell, I mean, they changed in-in the best of ways, um, the voice of the show in-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -like so many different ways which was great.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Like, I can see their influence in this particular episode, and then it never really changed it.

Glenn: What do you- what do you see specifically in this episode, uh, that would've been a Marder, Rosell style joke?

Rob: Well, oddly enough, they-they might not even be like as typical as like where we really got to which was like melting dogs in the- in the- in the alley.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: But even just the scene- the scene where I come in with Dee with the baby, and instantly, we morphed into like a married co-couple.

Charlie: That's got-- That's was what--

Glenn: That's you.

Charlie: Yeah, I feel like that's very you.

Glenn: That I-I don't know this for-- I don't know this for a fact but I-- that is so totally your style of humor.

Charlie: I really enjoyed that scene.

Rob: Or maybe I stole it from them?

Glenn: I don't know. I could be wrong.

Charlie: I enjoyed that scene so much when it-- when it came to it-

Rob: Me too.

Charlie: -because it was like, "Oh, this is just very real-

Glenn: One of my favorite scenes.

Charlie: -and uncomfortable." [chuckles]

Megan: Were you guys to dating then? And was that weird?

Rob: Mm.

Charlie: Yeah, you were dating then. Yeah, yeah.

Rob: The whole Season 3. Yes, I'm sure we were- we were definitely dating.

Megan: Was that weird?

Rob: Um--

Charlie: Is it a glimpse into your home life at home?

Rob: I'll tell you what- I'll tell you what was weird. I have no problems telling this story because it's been so long ago. When we were in Philadelphia shooting that season, I remember, um, getting-- we-we-we spend so-- none of us had kids, and all we would do is shoot all day, and then go out and get blind drunk.

Glenn: Right.

Rob: Remember? It was like a party. We had so much fun. And we stayed in some hotel. And so we had just started dating. Like I mean, not that long before that, um enough to where I was still like, "Oh I want to like impress this- impress this-this young woman." And we got, I don't know, again blind drunk. And the next morning, I wake up, and she's like, "Man, you sweat like crazy last night. It's-- Is it hot in here?" I'm like, "I don't know.I usually sweat at night, I don't- I don't know." And I'm like, "Yeah, sweaty." And like the sheets are like soaking wet.

Charlie: Mm.

Rob: And I'm like, "What the fuck? Like, I-I guess I am." And then she was like-- she smelled and she was like, "You pissed all over me."

Charlie: You pissed the bed?

Rob: I pissed the bed.

Glenn: You pissed all over her.

Charlie: Wow.

Rob: Which has never ha- happened before and has never happened since.

Charlie: Wow.

Glenn: You were that drunk.

Rob: I was that inebriated that I peed on my new girlfriend.

Glenn: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Charlie: I mean, I've definitely been like had to pee really bad in the morning and I had dreams that I was going to pee, and then that-

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: -that's what wakes me up, and then I go take a leak. But never has-- somehow there's a blocking in mechanism.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: And I don't know why. I don't pee the bed.

Glenn: I don't either.

Charlie: But I don't.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: I don't know why I did in that particular moment either. Like, I have been-

Charlie: Uh, tell me.

Rob: -inebriated before, inebriated since.

Glenn: Did her reaction to you peeing on the bed and all of her, uh, make you go, "Wow, this woman is really something else."

Rob: She thought it was the funniest thing that could possibly happen.

Glenn: Okay, there you go. That's just what I mean.

Rob: And I was like we're going to get, "I'm marrying this chick."

Glenn: "I'm marry--" I-I-- Dude, yes.

Rob: You know, that's what sealed the deal of us deciding to get married, and since then, we have lived in wedded bliss.

Charlie: I remember-- This is a funny memory, but I remember shooting that thing where I find the Alibaba sword in the dump. And I remember, you know, them being like, "This is going to be hard to shoot. Like, this is bigger production value." This whole episode is a lot more production value than our other ones.

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Rain material and shit, but uh even that, they had to build that mount with garbage.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Right.

Charlie: I was like, "Well, why don't we just like go to a dump somewhere?" [laughs] And they're like, "Buddy, you don't want to just be in the dump rummaging around the trash." And not until now watching it was I like, "Oh yeah, I didn't want just be--"

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: So I think they--

Rob: I think we were actually fighting for that. We were like-- because it was so expensive just to–we had no budget.

Charlie: To build the hill, to put all the trash bags in--

Rob: Exactly. And then we were like, "Let's just go to a dump. We can do it, we can do it, we can do it."

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: And Fox was like, "You cannot--" FX was like, "You cannot go."

Glenn: It's too much of a liability.

Rob: Yes.

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah.

Rob: Yeah. They’re not gonna let us–

Charlie: I will have hepatitis by the time I get to the bottom of that hill.

Rob: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Charlie: And the crew will be breathing in the garbage air all day.

Megan: Charlie, do you remember if, um, "Chopping a camel in it's hump with this thing and drinking the milk off the tip of a sword," if that line was scripted or did she set that up?

Rob: No way, no way. You-you-- I-I remember distinctly you making that up in the middle- in the mid- in the middle of that scene.

Glenn: You do?

Rob: Yes.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: I was like, "That is insane." It is so fucking funny when he's talking about chopping a camel in it's hump and drinking it's milk. I was like, "This dude, who is this guy? Like, who-who comes up with something that funny that fast?"

Charlie: It was probably a combo of me not knowing whether or not there was actually milk in there.


Charlie: You know like-like doing the riff-

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: -but also like being like slightly unsure, like, " Is it water? Is it milk? Is it just a- is it just a cellular growth? What's in there? What's in that camel's hump?" I don't actually know. I don't--

Glenn: It's important to embrace our ignorance and-and-

Charlie: Yeah

Glenn: -go with it because there's a lot of comedy in what we actually don't know.

Charlie: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah.

Rob: Here's how I know that was de- that was definitely, uh, an ad-lib. The line I believe was, and I bet- I bet if we dig up the script, we could find it. The line was, "Frank it's an Alibaba sword." And so, you start with, "check out what I found. I can-

Megan: Yeah.

Rob: -cu-cut a helmet." And then he gives a line, and you keep going over, uh- over him to get in the actual line which is, "It's an Alibaba sword."

Charlie: Uh, yeah, yeah.

Rob: Which you must have felt like was necessary for some reason-

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: and-and it wasn't. But you- but you-you had Ad-libbed all this funny thing--

Glenn: So you're saying Danny was being a professional and trying to throw in whatever his scripted line was.

Rob: Whatever it was that he was supposed to say, and then Charlie like finished the- finished the line.

Glenn: Right. I'd have to go back and watch that again. This-this episode was the first one that Jerry Levine, uh, directed.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: Um, and I remember being so-- like, so like nerdy excited because I grew up watching the movie Teen Wolf. Like I've, seen that movie a thousand times and Jerry Levine plays the character Stiles, and he's just so funny in it. He's so good. Did you guys grow up watching that movie?

Rob: Yes. I mean it-it wasn't one of those that I would watch over and over-

Charlie: No, I mean-

Rob: -again, but I'd seen it a bunch of times.

Charlie: I think I saw it once and I was like, "It's, uh- it's not for me."

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah. The hair bothers me.

Glenn: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. The Werewolf--

Charlie: I was like, this is upsetting.

Glenn: I-i-it was upsetting.

Charlie: He's in short-short shorts, that's-- I feel uncomfortable.

Glenn: It's also confusing 'cause it was like he was really hairy, obviously, 'cause he was a werewolf. Um, and yet somehow, he-- that made him sexier to people and to women and more popular. It's like-

Charlie: I thought–

Glenn: -if a dude showed up in a real high school they'll be like, "Ugh."

Charlie: They'd kill- they'd hill it.

Glenn: They'd kill it.

Charlie: They'd kill it.


Charlie: They'd really kill it.

Rob: And they'd be right to do so. I mean, it's a monster.

Glenn: It's a monster.

Charlie: You can't trust it.

Glenn: We know it's a monster, we've seen mo-movies about this monster-

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -numerous movies.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: You know, just 'cause he wants to play basketball doesn't mean he's up-- not up to something.

Rob: And why is a- why is a werewolf naturally better at basketball than, than a human.

Charlie: Well, I think that, uh, uh, wolf just has jumping abilities that a human doesn't have.

Glenn: I think what it is Michael--

Rob: Can he dribble?

Glenn: The Michael J. Fox-- the Michael J. Fox--

Charlie: That's the- that's the human combo coming in.

Glenn: That's-- Exactly. The Michael J. Fox guy, he was a decent basketball player, but then when you add like the physical abilities of a werewolf into the mix, then, you know, you've got a-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -you've got a-a real situation on your hands.

Charlie: Yeah. Michael J. Fox is like all men who are 5'2" are probably pretty good at basketball. But what does it take to really excel? And that's-and that's-that's, uh, werewolf genes.


Glenn: Uh--

Rob: Well, I believe that that movie, uh, is about puberty, isn't it? I think that's the whole thing. It's like it's-- I think it's like supposed to be like an–

Charlie: The hair- the hair is coming.

Rob: Yeah. So the fact that you are talking about hair and then-

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: -like why women fight. It's like-- I think it's like you are transforming into a--

Glenn: Right.

Charlie: Dudes, don't worry. The hair is okay. You could still be somebody despite all this new hair.

Glenn: That was the message.


Glenn: Yeah. That's the message. Yeah, 'cause with that hair comes like mad hops.

Charlie: Then, our buddy Jason Bateman did Teen Wolf Too.

Rob: Sure.

Glenn: He sure did.

Charlie: And-and that's T-O-O

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: As in Teen Wolf also.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: So listener, please go check that out.

Glenn: Check out Teen Wolf Too with Jason Bateman.

Charlie: And almost ruined his career, right? That almost- that almost-- that put him in movie jail for a little bit, I think.

Glenn: It might have, yeah.

Charlie: According to him. I feel he gets--

Glenn: I believe that. Yeah.

Charlie: I don't want to put words in his mouth.

Glenn: It tanked. It is-- And he was a- he-he was a boxer in that movie, right? And they didn't get Jerry Levine to play. They got like a different guy to play Stiles. No-- You know, not to bag on that guy, I don't know who that guy is but like, he's no Jerry Levine.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Jerry Levine was like amazing in that movie. He's so funny I never understood why he stopped acting and just became a director. He's a great director, too, but--

Charlie: I do miss that genre of movie which is like the-- that '80s comedy that feels very, mm, inexpensively produced.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: But like just pure fun.

Glenn: Just fun.

Charlie: I feel like that's kind of gone away.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: It's gone.

Glenn: Is it? Ah, I mean, do you think there's-there's a handful of them that-that come out these days? I mean, uh, like Booksmart, you know, was like a high school comedy.

Charlie: High school comedy, right.

Glenn: That was just so-so great. Um but, yeah, there's not- there's not not as many of them as they were in the '80s.

Charlie: They make less of them.

Glenn: The '80s were really- really a heyday for those, uh, high-concept, stupid, silly comedies.

Charlie: Well, speaking of stupid, silly comedies, what else about these dumpster baby, uh, do you guys recall?

Glenn: Well. I want to ask you guys, um-- I want to ask you guys, like do you remember how the- how this idea came about and like w-where the idea of like finding a baby in a dumpster-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -and how it tied in with global warming and throw away culture and all that?

Rob: Well, certainly, um, uh, An Inconvenient Truth had just come out-

Glenn: Right.

Rob: I think the previous year, and so that was a huge part of the-the popular culture and the conversation. But then also at the time, uh, unrelated, there were like three or four different stories about people finding babies in the trash.

Glenn: Really?

Rob: Yes. And-and-and we were like, "What the fuck is going on? Why are people throwing out children?"

Glenn: And your first thought was, "Now that's funny."

Rob: Well-

Charlie: Well--

Rob: -I think yeah. Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Right. We were like, "You know--" I-- Yeah, I mean, like wasn't that the goal of the show to take things that nobody else were ta-- wa-was talking about and see if we can find a-a comedic spin to it which is like-

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: -"Hey, the act in and of itself is not funny. But, man, what-what would happen if characters like this found-found one?"

Charlie: I guess we never really say like who the parents were or anything, right?

Rob: No.

Charlie: It's just that the baby is in the trash, and then the baby goes to child's services.

Glenn: Yeah, at the end.

Rob: And now that baby's probably--

Glenn: Oh, 14, 15 years old, right?

Rob: I think older than that, dude.

Glenn: Can-can we- can we try to track that baby down?

Charlie: How's DB doing? How's DB doing? All grown up.

Glenn: I would like to-- I would actually-- I'm sure it was a set of twins, right?

Rob: Yeah. Yeah.

Glenn: Because they always have twins. When you have a baby on set--

Rob: Uh, might have been triplets.

Charlie: I-- It was- it was triplets.

Glenn: It was triplets.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: It was triplets.

Glenn: You're right. Yeah, so, uh--

Charlie: It's a weird Hollywood thing where it's like, "Okay, you get five minutes with each baby, and if this one is not performing, this-- you know, this one's a good crier, you know,t his one's good at your goo-goo-ga-gas and, uh--" Yeah.

Glenn: "This one's nails the goo-goo-ga-gas almost every time. This one, he cries a lot. Wha-what-what do you want?"

Charlie: Cries a lot, yeah.

Glenn: "Which one do you want?"

Charlie: This one's got kind of a wonky eye. So you want to shoot over his shoulder.


Charlie: But like, uh-- You know.

Rob: "This one's a mutant."

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: "This one's a mutant. You don't want this one, uh-

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: -uh, for the cute shots."

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah.

Rob: But he-he's gonna have the best career.

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Rob: The guy with the wonky eye is gonna have the best career moving forward.

Charlie: Oh yeah, yeah. Eventually, eventually. But for now it's gonna, you know--

Glenn: Yeah, might throw people.

Megan: The baby is not on IMDb, so--

Glenn: I saw that. I tried to find him, too. I wanted to see--

Charlie: There's no justice.

Glenn: I know. Yeah. I really look-- Well, he's got to be in the credits, right?

Megan: Not-- I mean--

Glenn: No?

Megan: Not on IMDB.

Glenn: Maybe they didn't wanna-- Maybe they saw it.

Charlie: IM dumpster baby. He's not in IM dumpster baby.


Charlie: He is DB. What do you mean he's not on IMDb?


Glenn: Oh, that was teed up beautifully.

Charlie: Yeah, well.

Glenn: Oh God. Um--

Charlie: I'm waking up.

Rob: Yeah, I was-- I-I remember this whole season, I-- We definitely got to the editing room, and we were devastated every-every time. And it wasn't because we had, um, terrible editors. In fact, Josh Drisko has been with us from day one. I think we overwrote these episodes. I think we-we-

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Rob: -we would write episodes that would be like 40 pages.

Charlie: We did. We had to hack them down so much.

Glenn: Yeah, very much. Yeah.

Charlie: Well, the-- Our run time was longer, right? So we were given a little bit more length. And I-I like that. Actually watching this episode, I'm like, "Oh, there's a little more room for a few more twists and turns," which I think is good.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: But we also-- You know, we were figuring it out as we went. So we're like, "I don't know how many pages equals the 22 minutes we're allotted." So, you know, we're guessing it's 30 or maybe it's 28. And then sometimes we riff and things get expanded. And, yeah, some of those episodes were so long.

Rob: But you get a-- You get a cut that's 35 minutes long, and you've got to cut it down to 22 minutes.

Glenn: It's brutal.

Rob: Yeah, you-you--

Glenn: You end up cutting a bunch of jokes, uh, that don't necessarily progress the story just to make sure that the story stays on track, you know. 'Cause you can't cut like crucial story beats without you know, compromising things, usually. I mean, sometimes you can, but-- So you've got to-- So you end up cutting jokes, and it's very painful to cut jokes. 'Cause, boy, do you think you're funny. You watch and see like, "I'm so funny here, and you-you wanna cut this?"

Charlie: I don't remember anything that got cut from that episode. No.

Glenn: No, nor do I.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: It doesn't matter. You don't need it.

Charlie: Do you guys remember how hard it was to get Riders on the Storm, that song?

Glenn: Was it hard?

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: I-I don't remember.

Charlie: It was expensive, and we had to sort of-

Glenn: Push.

Charlie: -push for it, yeah.

Glenn: Yeah. It's so good in the episode. Like I love-

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah.

Glenn: -I love that scene with you and Danny in the-

Charlie: In the rain by the dumpster?

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah, so do. I, uh-- You know, it's funny I don't really remember shooting that, but I do remember him and I just sleeping on the subway grate, which we shot in Philly.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: There's a couple scenes we shot in Philly. My stepmother's in the show. Mary.

Glenn: Oh, yeah, Mary.

Rob: Mary, yeah.

Charlie: Oh, your step mother.

Rob: My mo- my mother's wife.

Glenn: With Lucy?

Rob: Yeah, with Lucy DeVito. Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah. When the-the-the two ladies that stop you and Dee when you're walking down the street with DB.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: And they're like, "Oh my, such a cute--"

Rob: They give us the idea for-- to-to-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -put-put him in commercials, make him a star.

Charlie: There's a shot there I don't love, which is you guys looking right into the crib.

Rob: Me-- Oh, yeah. That was pretty stylized-

Glenn: I didn't mind that.

Rob: -like from a baby's point of view.

Glenn: I didn't mind that.

Charlie: That's like, "Why are we in the baby's point of view?" We're not in the baby's point of view anywhere else in the storytelling. So then to up into the baby's point of view felt weird to me.

Rob: Mm-hmm. Mm.

Charlie: But, hey, you know, whatever. It's not–doesn’t make or break–

Glenn: No, no, no, it's good.

Rob: We wanna-we should recut it.

Charlie: I think that's not too-

Rob: Yeah, they gotta--

Charlie: -late to maybe reshoot.

Rob: Yeah, we could--

Rob: Is it too late to--

Glenn: Let's get Jerry Levine on the phone and see if he can explain to us what he was thinking. He'll definitely remember.

Charlie: Uh, but that might have been us. I-I feel like maybe that was one of the things that we pitched to him, like, "Hey, let's do this." And he's like, "Yeah, uh, whatever you guys want. It's your show. I-idiots."

Rob: I-I-I kind of wanna reshoot that. Uh, I kind of wanna reshoot an episode from like Season 1 or Season 2 shot for shot.

Glenn: That might be fun. Yeah.

Rob: That might be fun. And to see--

Charlie: That’d be depressing.

Rob: Oh, it'll be-- Oh, it'll be horrifically depressing. It'll be humiliating, which is great.

Glenn: Would we change the di-- Would we-- Would it be the same story, but like the dialogue's exactly the same? 'Cause I feel like we don't make quite the same jokes now.

Charlie: It might be interesting to do a story where we're-we're doing the same things, right, but we don't realize it. But every now and then one of us is like, "Some of this feels familiar to me."

Glenn: Mm-hmm.


Glenn: And it's like basically the exact same story.

Charlie: Yeah, but-- And then maybe someone's like, "No, we've done this before." He's like, "No way we would just make the same mistakes." And the episode is about just like sort of making the same mistakes over and over.

Glenn: Yeah, that's a good idea. Guys, this is how--

Megan: Isn't that- isn't that The Gang Recycles Their Trash?

Rob: Yes.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Oh, we did that. We did that. We did that.

Glenn: We did do that.

Rob: Did that. Did that. Did we- did we do one where we recycle our trash again? We might have done-

Charlie: No.

Rob: -like a sequel to that. No?

Charlie: We only did one.

Rob: I don't know.

Charlie: We only did one.

Glenn: No. We only did one.

Rob: Well, this one's about trash as well.

Charlie: Ah, the trash stuff I enjoyed so much.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Well, a lot of that-- I remember being on set, too, and a lot of that is su-- is improv. I remember you turning to Frank-- When you were just looking through the trash and talking about-

Glenn: Oh, yeah.

Rob: -how great it is and saying-- uh, holding up something and saying, "Electrics."

Charlie: Yeah, electrics.

Glenn: Uh, like electrics?

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah. Danny is saying that whatever the thing is like a ray gun, like the little-- [laughs]

Glenn: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rob: Taking the hose. He was talking about with the hose. He's like, "Oh, you can uh, wrap things up with this. Yeah, we can-- wrap stuff up." So excited about it.

Charlie: Uh, should we own up to um, one of our mistakes in this season-

Glenn: Mm.

Charlie: -um, when it comes to the production design?

Rob: Oh.

Glenn: Oh, the-the floor?

Rob: I didn't-didn't even notice it in the episode, but, yeah, I wanna go back and look.

Glenn: I didn't notice it in this one, but I remember this being the-the season where somebody-- Did-did that happen without us realizing-- without us knowing?

Charlie. Yes. Yes.

Rob: Yes.

Charlie: Yes. So what had happened was that the-the floor of the bar in Season 1 and 2 was-was flooring that was-- existed in the space that we were filming the Herald Examiner.

Glenn: The parquet floor.

Charlie: Yeah, this parquet floor. Uh, and it's very expensive to create and produce that. And so-- and in order to like cut corners and save some money, they had decided not to replicate-- Like, uh, some-- I don't wanna throw anyone specific under the bus, but like-

Glenn: Right. 'Cause we were shooting in the Examiner where it just, uh, that was the floor.

Charlie: That was the floor.

Glenn: Right.

Charlie: So someone had said, "Hey, let's cut a corner, save some money," and they changed the floor of the bar to just these like flat brown wood planks. They also really brightened up the colors in Sweet Dee’s apartment with bright-

Glenn: Right. Right.

Charlie: -purples and stuff. And we didn't realize, you know, 'cause you're doing a million things, you-- until we got into the editing room. We're like, "What is different? Why is this all feeling different?"

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: And eventually, you know, Season 4, we changed it back.

Glenn: Mhmm.

Charlie: But we shot the whole season with different fucking floors in the bar.

Rob: And it drove us crazy. But did, uh-- did we ever hear anybody-- Like I've ever heard anybody mention it.

Charlie: No, no, no. But it's a--

Rob: Meg, Meg, check the Reddit. Meg, check the Reddit.

Glenn: Oh, Come on.

Rob: "Is there-- is there a sunny floor Reddit?"

Charlie: I hope not.

Rob: I don't know.

Charlie: I hope not.

Rob: I don't know.

Charlie: I feel like people have other things to do. It's more like us, our own sense of like quality, you know-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -that it's irritating.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: And that was not the alleyway.

Rob: No.

Glenn: No.

Charlie: That was a different alleyway. That was a sort of fake set alleyway, which was right off of-

Glenn: Yes.

Charlie: -uh, this warehouse that we were filming in.

Glenn: Oh, right.

Rob: Yup.

Charlie: From a production standpoint, I get it. It was like, "Let's save money. Let's-let's try to get everything all in one location, so we're not spending a lot on company moves, moving the entire place downtown just to shoot in a stinky alleyway." But I don't know. I'm saying something-something feels lost.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: You know what was great about that alley whenever we shot down-down there is that it was the-- that door to Patty's is a working restaurant.

Charlie: Oh, yeah, yeah.

Rob: And it was a Korean restaurant.

Charlie: No, no, it was um, uh, those little like meat filled sandwich things. Like, what are they called?

Glenn: Empanadas?

Charlie: Empanadas, yeah. It was an empanada place.

Rob: It was?

Charlie: Oh, yeah. I'm positive.

Rob: Well, either way-

Glenn: I don’t remember.

Rob: -it was a-- it was a working restaurant.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: And I remember that we never ever were able to ask them like to buy out the-the-

Glenn: Nah.

Rob: -restaurant. So-- The-- And they would-- The-the owner, whoever, the general manager, wouldn't tell the staff like to stop cooking or what was happening.

Charlie: "Do not stop making empanadas. I-I implore you, no matter what happens today, keep your head down, get those empanadas made. All right? Don't stop, okay."

Rob: “Things are gonna be–”

Charlie: "There might be some people coming in and out, they might be behaving weirdly, don't look at them, don't acknowledge them."

Glenn: "Just make empanadas."

Charlie: "For the love of God, make empanadas. God forbid, a cop walks in here, and we're not making that empanadas, and they-- this whole thing goes to shit, you know?" 'Cause ain't nobody buying these empanadas. It's all front.

Glenn: It's what's inside the empanadas, you know-

Charlie: You know, when--

Glenn: -if you know what I mean?

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Well, yeah. So we would have access to it, and the door would open, and we would go in. And generally it would be li-like us bursting out the door 'cause-

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah.

Rob: -we didn't wanna see in. But there would be times between-- Like when-when-- before we would roll and then like you'd be inside this restaurant where they're making empanadas.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Preparing to do-- Have you do your exit.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: And there's like a guy--

Rob: And you'd have a radio, and they're like, "Okay, action." And you're like, "Did he say action? I don't know. Did he say action?" 'Cause they're blasting music, it's like--

Charlie: [makes sound] You know, you're-

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Charlie: -bursting out.

Glenn: Yeah. That's right.

Rob: And the guys, like, they wouldn't even really even look at us. It was j--

Charlie: No.

Glenn: They couldn't care less.

Rob: There was something going on in there, right? And maybe there was. They were filling those empanadas with some--

Charlie: I-I-I think that's a funny little thing about this business where that happens a lot. Like, you go on a location scout or something and you're like walking through like a weird kitchen of a working place, and it's you and a team of people. And then-- No one ever tells the people working there. They don't ever shut it down. Like maybe usually like a big movie will buy the place out for a while. But most places are like, "No, keep the empanadas going. Will be in and out. We just need your doorway." That's a weird thing.

Rob: It just happened this year. We-we were shooting the scene where you and I were walking down the street in Dublin. And, um, we were doubling it with another street. And-and they just didn't lock it down at all. So every time we would go back to our starting point, there would be like some guy that would come up and be like, "Hey, Mac and Charlie." We'd be like, "Hey, bud." And he's like, "Hey, can I take a photo?" We're like, "Sure. There's no-- But we're in the middle of a scene. Like, uh-

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: -all good, like, no problem." But is there any lockdown? Is there any security? Is there--

Glenn: Well, this is something you've been bitching about for years. You're always like--

Rob: I don't--

Glenn: You're always like-- we-we talk to the locations people.

Rob: Yes.

Glenn: We're like, "Can we lock this street down? We need to lock the street down." They're like, uh-- they won't let us do it.

Rob: You just can't do it.

Glenn: You can't do it.

Rob: LA-LA County will not let you lock down a city street.

Glenn: And think of a number--

Rob: And I'm like, "Fuck you. I've seen Jerry Bruckheimer-

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: -movies where they're blowing cars up and people up and helicopters up in the middle of the street."

Charlie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Glenn: Are you telling me--

Rob: “Are you telling me they didn't lock that down?"

Glenn: Yeah. There's just- there's this like some guy driving by in his Honda Civic, right, is that transformer's blowing up?

Rob: And then their answer is, "Well, oh well, no. Yeah, you can do it."

Charlie: Yeah, for the right price.

Rob: You just said you-- we can't do it.

Charlie: Well, you can't do it.

Glenn: "No, sorry. What I meant is you can't do it."

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Rob: "Sorry. Is your last name Bruckheimer?"

Charlie: Yeah, yeah.

Rob: No, but it's equally difficult to pronounce.



Charlie: What park was that where we had chained, uh, what's that actor's name, to the tree, who's very funny.

Rob: God, he-he was great, and he was great in it.

Glenn: Yeah. I don't remember what park that was. Uh--

Rob: I think it was a park on La Cienega

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Um--

Charlie: That when you're cutting over towards the airport?

Rob: Yes.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yes.

Charlie: We shot there a couple times.

Rob: We have shot there couple times.

Charlie: Danny being stuck in a coil.

Rob: Yeah, yeah.

Megan: Todd Grinnell.

Charlie: Todd Grinnell.

Rob: Todd Grinnell.

Charlie: Great.

Glenn: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Of course, Todd Grinnell.

Rob: God, he was- he was great. And our friend Isaac played Mountain.

Charlie: Oh, he's great.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Isn't he great?

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: He's so great in it.

Glenn: He's-- There's another guy, who was al-- I was always like, "I think he-- Why is he not an actor?"

Rob: He's a prop-- he's prop master.

Glenn: I know he's a prop master, but he's also a director.

Charlie: You know, sometimes when you're not an actor, it's just-- you're better. It's that- it's that weird thing about like the person just is the person, and it's interesting to watch.

Rob: Jackie Tohn.

Glenn: Yeah, Jackie Tohn, yeah. She was great.

Rob: Was she on American Idol?

Charlie: She's gone on to do some other--

Rob: Yeah, well, she acts as well, but I-I think--

Glenn: Oh, she a singer.

Rob: She was a singer, right?

Glenn: Yeah, she's a singer and a musician.

Rob: I think she was on like America's Got Talent or-

Glenn: Yeah, she was on one of those.

Rob: -she was on American Idol maybe. I think she was on American Idol.

Glenn: I think you're right.

Charlie: Danny Hill was, uh-

Megan: American Idol, yeah.

Charlie: -Mary Elizabeth's friend who plays the guy, the tanning bed.

Glenn: Oh, the orange–

Rob: Yeah, yeah. I-I hear that- I hear that often just-to-get-a-base people.

Glenn: Just to get a base.

Rob: People will just–

Charlie: Just to get a base.

Glenn: Yeah. There's that-- I always found that very, very funny.

Rob: Well, I-- We don't need a full tan.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: We just need to lay the base layer down.

Charlie: You guys, you don't tan, right? You don't--

Glenn: Who, me?

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Do I look like I tan?

Charlie: No, I know you don't tan.

Rob: No.

Charlie: You might go-- You don't go outta your way to tan, right?

Rob: No, no, no. This-this-

Charlie: No, come on.

Rob: -this skin is not--

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Made to tan.

Rob: Not made to tan.

Charlie: Yeah. Pretty crazy thing to go into a tanning booth and just like--

Rob: Cook me.

Charlie: Cook your cells.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Because for whatever reason--

Glenn: I was always tempted to do it when I was single 'cause-

Charlie: Uh-huh.

Glenn: -I was always like, "I'm so pale." Like, if I could just get a little bass and keep it.

Charlie: Yeah, sure.

Glenn: You know what I mean?

Charlie: Yeah, right.

Glenn: I don't need to be like, you know-

Charlie: Orange.

Glenn: -orange or-or even fully brown. I just need to be like a li-- I just need to be like I've spent a little bit of time in the sun. You know what I mean? A healthy man.

Charlie: Well, why not just puff that shirt off when you go pull little basketball?

Rob: Well, yeah--

Charlie: Well, no, I'll do- I will do that. I do do that, yeah.

Rob: Glenn's-- But Glenn's-- And rightfully so, but you started earlier than most of us when we would go to the beach together when we lived in Venice and, uh-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -Marina del Rey. And I would show up and, uh, and you would- you would look purple.

Glenn: I know.

Rob: You had so much sunblock on.

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah.

Rob: It was a very weird shade of purple.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: That the-- 'Cause it would be like a very specific kind of sunblock.

Glenn: What's that-- it's that mineral sunscreen, right?

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: That goes on and it just looks like a- like a thin of white then it-- and it for me in my skin, it turns me purple.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: I do- I don't use that shit anymore.

Rob: People were like "Now, this-this dude's hardcore and he's not--"

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: He was not-- But it was great.

Charlie: That guys chokin’. He’s chokin’.

Rob: I mean, it pro-protected you from the sun.


Charlie: He's there.

Glenn: Yeah, that guy looks like he's very cold.

Charlie: He's choking.

Glenn: He's oxygen deprived.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Uh, yeah. Yeah. I know that.

Rob: Yeah. So you don't wanna get the-- I mean, I've had enough things lopped off my skin from s- from sun damage. I mean-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -when I was a kid- when I was a kid we would go to the beach, and-and there was no sunblock. My mother used to spray us with vinegar.

Glenn: Yeah, to get- to get you dark.

Rob: Yeah. Well, it was to keep away the flies.

Charlie: That is the-the-the-- Yeah. That is the funniest thing, picturing these like-

Glenn: A what?

Charlie: McElhenney kids just reeking of vinegar. Imagine you're coming over to a kid like, "Hey, will you- will you guys wanna play, uh, frisbee or something?" And some of them be like, "Oh God. What is that smell?”

Glenn: Jesus Christ.

Charlie: “My eyes are watering trying to talk to this kid.”

Glenn: "Shit, man, how much fish and chips did you have?"

Charlie: "What the fuck are you? Uh, this guy smells like a fucking salad."


Charlie: “What is this dudes deal?”

Rob: Crazy. Crazy. Even worse than that like--

Charlie: And act like the second you go in the water that vinegars off.

Rob: Yeah. No, but when you came out, she had more of it. She just wax you-- She would wack you down.

Charlie: "Watch out for mom, she's got the vinegar. She's gonna blast me."

Rob: It's all-- And I even look-- And now I ask her like, "Why-why-why was I sprayed down with vinegar?" It's-- And I'm like, "Do you think that they'd helped to engage the sun in some way?" And she was like, "Uh, it's an--" By the way, it's- it's still unclear 100%.

Charlie: She's like, "Honey, I was loaded. I'm so sorry."

Rob: Yeah, yeah, she was-- Oh, oh, 100%. That's-that's-that-- No doubt. We would go down there with her and her sisters and her friends.

Charlie: Yeah, why vinegar?

Rob: We would play Parcheesi.

Charlie: What the fuck is that?

Glenn: What if she was like–

Rob: Because in Jersey, they had these like horseflies that would bite you.

Glenn: Oh, yeah.

Rob: And I think it was like to keep the--

Charlie: They don't like the vinegar.

Rob: They don't like the vinegar, so it keeps the f- the flies away from you, but no--


Rob: No sunblock-

Charlie: A lot of kids covered in vinegar and flies.


Charlie: "You know those kids, they're from Philly." "Yeah, they're sprinkled with vinegar. They always got flies."


Rob: And we-we-- She also loved-- For some reason, she loved the look of those like- of like those like swimmer like-like in the European look.

Glenn: Oh, no.

Rob: Like, they look like underwear, right?

Glenn: They put those on you?

Rob: Okay. Yes.

Glenn: Oh, dude.

Rob: Yes, like a swimmer, like a swimmer.

Charlie: God help you.

Rob: She loved that look, right. And we were too young, but I was old enough. I was probably like nine.

Glenn: Oh, God. You knew it wasn’t good.

Rob: You know, 9 or-- 8 or 9 or 10.

Charlie: Yeah, yeah.

Rob: And she was like, "You just look so cute in these." And meanwhile, like-- You know, and maybe at like six, you don't care. But by the time you hit like 10 you're like, "My dick is tiny." And it looks so bad.

Glenn: Yeah, it looks so much smaller in this.

Rob: Yeah, like I-- Yeah, and so now I'm wearing-- [laughs]

Charlie: God only knows how it's reacting to the vinegar, too.

Rob: Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Charlie: Schrivles it right up.

Glenn: Yeah, like a slu-

Charlie: Can I get some balsamic on it?

Glenn: -like a slug.

Charlie: -or something, you know.


Glenn: Yeah. That's-- that is so weird.

Rob: Oh, yeah.

Glenn: Like I mean, I grew up in the south a lot, a lot of horseflies.

Rob: I had nothing but good memories, though. Like I just-- I remember it-

Glenn: Right.

Charlie: So you didn't care.

Rob: Really fun-- No, I did- I did remember caring once, like 10 or 11. I remember there being like a group of kids and me always having my hands over my dick. And then my cousin being like, "Look, man, there's no hiding. There's no hiding. You gotta get a new suit. You just gotta get a new suit." And I was like, "All right."

Glenn: I'd say-- So 11 years old, you were still wearing like the European, uh--

Rob: Maybe 10, yeah. Like I-I'll get some f-- I'll get some photos 'cause we have some photos. I look happy in the photos. I smell bad.

Glenn: I do really enjoy when I see, uh-- it's always like a-an older gentleman. It's always a man like, yeah, well into his 60s or above. You know, and those guys are just like, "I don't give a fuck. This is what I like.'

Rob: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Glenn: "This is what I wanna wear. This is what I like. This is what makes me comfortable, and I don't care how it makes you feel."

Rob: Well, I tell you what, I was tan as shit. Like as far as-as as Irish-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -skin that I have, I was like-- 'Cause we would be out there on the beach every day covered in vinegar with no clothing- with no clothing on. I was so tan. The photos you see of me, I'm like, "This is crazy." I look so, so dark.

Glenn: How does- how does the vinegar affect the sun? Does it- does it make you get more sun or does it actually block the sun?

Rob: Well, I think she-- from her, uh, point of view, I think it did has-- No, no, it didn't block the sun. I think it was like an o-- Well, it had the same properties as a baby oil.

Glenn: That's what I'm saying so it enhanced the--

Rob: I-I believe so, yeah.

Glenn: Ah.

Rob: Like, she wanted us tan.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Right. ot-- uh, uh, just because that was a healthy look, you know.

Glenn: Right, right. Well, my-

Charlie: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: -my ba-- I want my kids to look healthy.

Rob: Yeah. Yeah.

Glenn: Spray them in vinegar-

Charlie: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Glenn: - and get them out there.

Charlie: Yeah, I want this kid to--

Glenn: And if he's covered in horsefly bumps-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -then that negates the whole thing.

Charlie: Sure, yeah.

Rob: I'll-I'll dig up some photos.

Charlie: Yeah, I want them to resemble a French fry, you know what I mean, it's just like golden brown vinegar.

Rob: I think I look pretty good, if I'm being honest. I mean, my-- I look like, you know-- My Dick didn't look great, uh, when I was--

Charlie: Mm-hmm.

Rob: I was a little kid. I don't know if you should be looking at little kid's dick anyway. But like I think my-my body looked, uh--


Rob: I was tan as shit.

Charlie: Guess so.

Rob: I was tan.

Glenn: Yeah. I guess so. Um–

Charlie: What percentage of people are gonna try the vinegar thing now. They're like, "Oh, you were really tan? I'm gonna try the of vinegar."

Glenn: Listen, I grew up in Alabama where we had a-a shitload of horseflies and nobody ever sprayed me in vinegar. Nobody ever suggested spraying, you know, me down.

Rob: It could have been to fuck with us, I don't know. It could have been to be like, "Look, we gotta toughen this kid up."

Glenn: Right.

Rob: "So we gotta get him out there and like having kids pick at him, so he can, I don't know, get the--"

Glenn: So he can spend the rest of his life overcompensating.

Rob: Yes.

Charlie: It's a bizarre move one way or the other.

Glenn: Yeah, yes. Just-just to spray yourself in vinegar is very strange.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: We should- we should have my mom on the podcast and have her answer for it.

Glenn: And she'll be like, "I don't remember any of that."

Charlie: "Oh, I don't know. You're supposed to get vinegar all over. I don't know. It's what you do."


Charlie: "Oh, stop, Rob. You loved it."

Glenn: When-when, uh-- when did your mom and Mary get together? How old were you?

Rob: Oh, uh, I-I-- Very young. 9, 10, something like that.

Glenn: Oh, okay.

Rob: Yeah. For they've been together for long.

Glenn: So she was involved in the vinegar.

Rob: Well, it depends on who you ask.

Glenn: These were- these-these were nurses by the way.

Rob: Yes. Well, my-- Uh, Mary was not a nurse. Uh, my mother was a- my-my mother was a nurse.

Glenn: Oh. I thought Mary was also a nurse.

Rob: Well, actually at this point, my mother- my mother was not a nurse, she was in nursing school.

Glenn: Ah.

Rob: She was, uh-- She had just transitioned from, um, a pyramid scheme salesman into-- She-she was one of those like-- We had this thing called Shaklee.

Glenn: No, I don't know what that is.

Rob: Which is basically Nutra-NutraLife or-or Amway, like it's in that so-

Glenn: Yeah. It's like supplement.

Rob: It's like vitamin. Yeah, supplements-

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah.

Rob: -and vitamins and whatever. And I just remember they were-- there was like Shaklee pills everywhere. I mean, she was- she's a go-getter. Like, she was like a entrepreneur.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: And was like, "I'm gonna- I'm gonna- I'm gonna get a-- I'm gonna become a part of this thing and I'm gonna sell. I'm gonna be the best Shaklee-

Glenn: "I'm gonna get to the top of this pyramid."

Rob: -salesman in all of Philadelphia," yeah. And then I just-- I don't think anybody bought them in South Philly there.

Glenn: Oh.

Rob: No.

Charlie: That's the thing about the pyramid scheme. It's about selling to the person who's gonna sell.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, you're constantly trying to offload it not to the customer, but to the person who's gonna be under you.

Charlie: To a new salesman.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: We address that on the show as well.

Charlie: Yeah. Oh, yeah. We hit it all.

Glenn: God, we've done everything, haven't we?

Rob: We haven't done vinegar. I mean, maybe we can do a thing about vinegar, I don't know.

Glenn: Uh, Megan, can you jot that down just so we don't forget for Season 16, we wanna do a vinegar episode.

Rob: Yeah. Maybe we should look into vinegar as a sponsor. What are the popular vinegars that are- that are out there?

Glenn: Well, there's, uh--

Charlie: I tell you, I'm a big fan of a salt and vinegar chip. I mean, come on.

Glenn: Oh, buddy. I will go nuts on salt and vinegar bag of chips, man.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Probably-probably the best.-

Rob: I bet you my skin tasted like salt and vinegar chips.

Glenn: Right.

Charlie: Well, I'm sure it's salty.

Glenn: 'Cause we saw that, yeah.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: It's salty, it's vinegar-

Charlie: Helps you from sweating and--

Rob: -and sun, it's baking-

Charlie: Uh-huh.

Rob: -it's baking into the-- Interesting.

Glenn: So maybe-maybe you smelled great. Maybe you smelled like a bag of salt and vinegar potato chips.

Rob: Oh, they don't smell good though.

Glenn: No, they don't.

Rob: They don't.

Glenn: No.

Charlie: Salt and vinegar chips don't smell good?

Glenn: Well--

Rob: Not to me. I-I don't like the--

Charlie: I like it.

Glenn: Yeah. Well I–

Rob: It’s not–

Glenn: And it-- it doesn't stop me fr-from eating them.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Well, maybe we would have been friends when-when-when we were kids.

Glenn: What do you think?

Rob: You'd be like," I accept you."

Glenn: Would you- would you've accepted vinegar kid? I doubt it.

Charlie: I might've been thrown off by the speedo.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: More than the vinegar?

Charlie: Well, then once I got close, then the vinegar would've just overpowered.

Glenn: Right. You-you see this speedo and you're like, "Ah, I'm gonna give this kid a shot."

Charlie: I don't know.

Glenn: It's like, "I'm gonna give him a shot," they get closer and he also smells like vinegar, it's like, "That's-that's too many things."

Charlie: This is too much.

Glenn: That's too many things.

Charlie: This is too much.

Glenn: You know, to have that on and smell like vinegar. that's--

Charlie: No, I don't recall any speedos in New England. I don't ever remember seeing--

Glenn: Too cold.

Rob: I don't recall any speedos in Jersey other than us.

Charlie: [laughs] So it's just you.

Rob: So it was just the McElhenneys. So McElhenney-

Charlie: God help you.

Rob: -just Pat, me and--Pat-Patrick and I. Yeah, I was a--

Charlie: You know, I'm not a fan of is the thong. Like, uh, on the beach, like-like the thong is very popular.

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: Man, I don't- I don't know, it's-- I don't like the look.

Rob: You like a little mystery.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: It makes it look like a rhino's butt to me.

Glenn: A rhino’s butt.

Charlie: You know what I mean? Like-- it's like-like it-like it makes--

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: -the crack look longer than it should be.

Rob: Is there also something to liken how that thing where like-

Charlie: It looks uncomfortable, too.

Rob: -if somebody is scantily clad, it's more attractive than someone is- who's just like completely naked. Do you see-- d-d-d-do you feel that way sometimes?

Glenn: Wait, sa-say-say that again.

Rob: Meaning like-

Charlie: I know what you're saying.

Rob: -when there is a little air of mystery-

Charlie: I know what you're saying.

Rob: -when you're like I can see aspects of your nudity and your body through your clothing, for example, uh, is maybe more attractive than someone who is just like nude.

Glenn: Yes. I-I I agree with that.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah. I like a little mystery, personally.

Rob: Yeah, Meg, like when you see a juicy dong hanging down somebody's pant, like, is that better than seeing the dong itself?

Glenn: Yeah. Which-- How do you-

Megan: Uh, uh, an adult dong or a 10-year old dong?

Rob: No, no, adu-adult. We're talking adult.

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Megan: Yeah.

Glenn: How do you like your dongs?

Megan: Yeah. I like-- I don't wanna see any more than half of it.

Glenn: Right.

Charlie: Yeah. Sure.

Glenn: But you don't mind seeing the top.

Megan: Yeah, a little bush.


Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: That makes sense.

Charlie: That's how I feel about the thong, man. It's like-like elephant butt.

Rob: Meg, do you like to see, like, uh- like an outline, like w-would you find the outline of a dick in the pants attractive or just weird?

Megan: Um, I don't find-- it's like-- it's sp-specifically a tool for something. So it's like to me, it's like a plunger. I don't care what it looks like as long as it works.

Glenn: Oh, I see.

Megan: Like, the visual element is not what I like about it.

Charlie: That's right. Yeah, that's right.

Megan: Yeah.

Charlie: Well, also–

Glenn: I've never thought about it that way, but you're totally right.

Rob: It’s the suggestion of a plunger.

Megan: But women are generally not as visual.

Glenn: It's a means to an end.

Rob: Right.

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Glenn: It's a means to an end. Yeah.

Megan: Like if I was-- if a guy was like, "I know how to use a plunger," I'd be like, "Cool." But if he is like, "Look how cool my plunger looks." I'd be like, "I don't give a shit."

Glenn: Yeah. Can you handle–

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Megan: Can you use it?

Glenn: Can you unclog my toilet?

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Megan: Yeah.

Glenn: I don't care how it looks.

Charlie: Yeah, you're on the A-trains 4:30 in the morning, guy opens his trench coat, there's his plunger--

Glenn: Right.

Charlie: You're like, "Buddy, there's not even a toilet on this thing. Why am I looking at your plunger?"

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Charlie: "What is this, man?"

Glenn: Right. Right. Right.

Charlie: "What is this?"

Rob: "What kind of train is this?"

Charlie: "What kind of train is this?"


Rob: "You fucking smell-

Charlie: You know, yeah.

Rob: -like vinegar, man."

Rob: I'm gonna dig up some photos.

Glenn: Of-of you as a kid?

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Oh, I'd like to see that.

Rob: Uh, Yeah. Cause I'm-I'm-- I fas–

Glenn: Could we put those-- do we have a website yet, Megan?

Rob: We have a social media presence.

Charlie: We have, yeah, an Instagram account.

Glenn: What do we do on social media? Let's try--let's try to get-- Teah. See if you can get your hands on some of those photos and let's get those up on the internet.

Rob: Okay.

Glenn: Let's make sure the world sees 'em.

Rob: Great.

Glenn: Uh, I-- 'Cause I want-- I I wanna see them and I want the world to see 'em. If you're okay with that.

Rob: Oh, yeah, I think I will be. Yeah.

Glenn: And maybe, maybe, uh-- and-and-and this is for you guys out there, when these photos hopefully do pop up on, uh, our social media, go ahead and take that photo and put some, you know, some li--some stinky lines coming off of him.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: You know what I mean? So that he's- so that he is like, uh-- what was the kid from the Pea-- from Peanuts?

Rob: Yeah, it was Pig-Pen.

Glenn: Pig-Pen

Charlie: Yeah. Uh-huh. It was Pig-Pen, yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: You know, but it's like- but it's like vinegar just sort of like you know baking off of your-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -off of your body.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: So if you can improve upon it.

Charlie: But don't put any flies on him. The flies will be around him, but they won't land on him.

Glenn: The flies–

Rob: No. Yeah. They won't. They'll come in they'll be like, "Nah, not that guy. Let's go get the other guy."

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Just like the girls, they'd be like, "Not him."

Charlie: Yes, same, but, uh-- So vinegar has the same effect.

Rob: Yeah. She was repelling flies and friends.

Charlie: Yeah. Every time you went to the beach?

Rob: And and not, we were into it. I wasn't like, "Yeah, get me." I was like, "I don't--"

Glenn: Get me.

Rob: 'Cause I hate vinegar. I just, "Mom, can we just not?" She's just, "Look, you just gotta do it." I'm like, "Okay.” It's like brushing your teeth.

Charlie: Everyone else is doing it.

Glenn: Nowm did-- let me ask you this? Did you- did you ever- did you ever get your way and-and Mom was like, "All right, fine, we're not-- we won't do vinegar, and let's see how you do with the h- with the horseflies"?

Rob: Yeah. Well, then, yeah. I don't know when the transition was to me not getting--

Glenn: Did you not ever get bit by a horsefly?

Rob: Oh, fuck, yeah.

Glenn: It fucking hurts.

Rob: Sucks.

Charlie: They-- That does hurt.

Rob: Well, they call 'em greenheads-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -in Jersey, but they were the same, the same idea.

Charlie: Right.

Rob: There weren't any horses around.

Glenn: They were mean, they were fucking mean like-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -you'd be swimming in a swimming pool like at our house or my friend's house or whatever, and there'd be like-- there'll always be like one horsefly who was just like-- just wanted us. You know what I mean? Just wanna get us.

Charlie: And why-wh-why? Are th- are- are they eating whatever they bite?

Glenn: What-what are they eating?

Rob: Yeah. What are they getting?

Glenn: Are they bloodsuckers or are they--?

Charlie: Or are they just, uh-

Glenn: What are they up to?

Charlie: -warning you away from their-

Glenn: Right. They're protecting their children?

Charlie: -their turf, their children, their turf, yeah.

Glenn: -their fly children.

Charlie: Or are they--

Glenn: Are they protecting their fly babies, or--

Charlie: Eating your skin, having-having a little nibble.

Glenn: Yeah, what do they- what do they want from us?

Megan: Female horseflies require blood during summer's mating season, which is why they bite people.

Rob: Okay.

Glenn: Okay. So they want, but they'll take the blood of anything.

Charlie: They want blood like women.

Rob: Right. Like women who's--

Charlie: They're out for blood--

Rob: They're out for the-the-- During mating season, they will-- they need- they need your blood.

Glenn: They need your blood. They want your blood. So that's what they're- that's what they're after they wanna get under the skin and get that blood and-and then, uh--

Megan: Ju-just the females, yeah.

Glenn: Okay. And they- and they- and they-they do this-- they'll do this to any animal right? Not just-

Megan: Yes.

Glenn: -not just humans, obviously, they're called horseflies. So they do it to horses, but they'll take any kind of blood-

Megan: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: -that they can get?

Charlie: God. What an existence just flying around and be like, "Ah, I need blood." You know.

Glenn: Yeah. Just looking for fucking blood. You know, it's like--

Charlie: Just fucking flying around needing blood. Oh.


Charlie: Can you imagine?

Glenn: You see a fucking--

Rob: Can you imagine?

Glenn: Can you see like a group of kids like playing in a pool and you're just like, "I--"

Charlie: "Oh, look at all that blood. Oh shit, they're covered in vinegar. [laughs] Ah, I can't get to their blood."


Glenn: Oh God.

Charlie: Oh, man.

Glenn: The life of a horsefly, huh?

Charlie: The life of a horsefly.

Glenn: Right guys?

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Um.

Rob: Oh, see you guys.

Glenn: Is that it? Is that it guys? Or you- are you, uh- are you off to--

Rob: Yeah. I've over- I've overextended myself, you know, um-

Glenn: Right.

Rob: -probably to make up for, uh, the years of abuse.

Glenn: That's what I'm talking about.

Rob: Yeah. For the-- From the kids--

Glenn: Yeah. You were the vinegar kid and-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -you'll never let it--you'll never be able to let that go.

Rob: I'll always be the kid with the little dick that, uh, smelled like vinegar-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -in-in my mind.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: So I have to-

Glenn: Keep--

Rob: -achieve-

Glenn: Achieving.

Rob: -improve, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what is that.

Charlie: So then improve.

Rob: Maybe.

Charlie: Yeah. So then improve. Yeah.

Rob: Good chip on my shoulder.

Charlie: I think we all have that. Doesn't everybody have that like a little bit?

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Something to prove.

Glenn: I think anyone who's an actor in Hollywood has a little bit of that like-

Charlie: For sure.

Glenn: -"I got something to prove," kind of thing.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah.

Rob: I'd say my chip is, yeah, directly proportionate to-- the size of the chip is directly proportionate to the, uh, opposite size of-

Glenn: Your penis.

Rob: -of my dick, yeah.

Glenn: Right. Yeah. The smaller the penis, the--

Charlie: Going on and on about this.

Glenn: The smaller the penis, the bigger the chip is what you're saying.

Rob: Yeah. I think maybe, yeah, maybe.

Glenn: Yeah.

Megan: It's a salt and vinegar chip.

Glenn: And with that-

Rob: Salt and vinegar chip.

Glenn: -that should be the end right there.

Rob: Vic vinegar.

Megan: Great. Can you guys do me one favor and clap?

Rob: Yeah. [claps]

Glenn: I can't clap.

Megan: Oh, yeah.


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