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12. Hundred Dollar Baby

On the pod, the guys revisit Hundred Dollar Baby from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia Season 2, Episode 5.

Glenn: He's cutting it close. Cutting it really close.

Rob: Not-not-not--

Glenn: I got really fucking nervous. I was rushing to finish my shit-

Rob: [laughs]

Glenn: -so that I could get in here. Because I got really fucking nervous about it.

Rob: That's good. Not as close. It's 9:59.

Glenn: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think he said it was 55.

Rob: No, no, no. He's gonna- he's gonna roll in here. No problem

Glenn: I'm just good. He's, I mean, I'm telling you right when it turns 10:00 we roll.

Rob: Well, okay, we're rolling now, but it's only 9:59. Don't make it any sudden--

Glenn: I'm not gonna-- All right.

Rob: Right. 'Cause I did hear him around. He-he might be standing outside waiting.

Glenn: Oh, do you think now-- [crosstalk] [unintelligible 00:00:36] .

Rob: Oh, it's 10:00.

Glenn: All right, let's go. It's ten o'clock.

Rob: [crosstalk] It is officially, ten o'clock.

Glenn: It's officially ten o'clock.

Rob: Yes.

Glenn: That's when we said we were gonna do the podcast.

Rob: We did. I did see Charlie here earlier.

Glenn: Oh my God. Wow.

Rob: So he's in the building?

Glenn: He's in the building. He's in- you said he was in the kitchen?

Rob: Yeah, he was in the kitchen, yes.

Glenn: You saw tinkering around in the kitchen?

Rob: Yeah, yeah.

Glenn: Oh, boy.

Rob: He was making-- Oh, he-he had no regard for our time whatsoever. He was just making himself a bagel.

Glenn: Just making a bagel with no regard for when we said we needed to be here to record.

Rob: No, no. And I think in his mind, he's like, "Well, I'm in the office?" But the office is not the room where we podcast.

Glenn: Right. Now. Should we make--

Rob: Oh, and here he comes.

Glenn: Oh, here he is.

Rob: Just come in. He's late.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: I did it intentionally.

Glenn: No.

Rob: You did? [laughs]

Glenn: No he didn't. He's got- this guy's got food in his mouth.

Charlie: I-I've been here forever, I [unintelligible 00:01:18].

Rob: I saw that you've been here forever.

Glenn: This guy's got food in his mouth.

Rob: He just jammed food down his face so fast to get in here on time.

Glenn: You didn't eat a whole in the last two minutes, did you?

Charlie: I did-- I sure did.

Rob: Yeah, he did. I watched him pull it [crosstalk] out like a minute and a half ago.

Glenn: It's already hard enough for the body to [crosstalk] digest.

Charlie: I thought--

Rob: I thought there's no way he's gonna be late. And he was, but he was really, only if we're being fair. He was about 55 seconds late.

Charlie: 55 seconds late--

Glenn: He did it for the podcast.

Charlie: No. Well actually I tell- I'll tell you there's two things. I was like, "Did we say 10:30. or we say-said 10:00- said 10:00?"

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: I was looking at it, I was like, "It's almost 10:00," but I was like, "It's probably better if I just stroll in after 10:00, so they-they got something to talk about."

Rob: [laughs]

Charlie: But-but let's talk about the bigger issue here.

Glenn: Oh shit.

Rob: Let's talk about parking.

Charlie: Let's talk about parking.

Rob: [laughs]


Glenn: Well, you got my- you got my text, right? Um--

Charlie: I did get your text.

Rob: All right. It's obscene what Charlie was able to pull off this morning.

Glenn: Yeah, I'm-I'm sure. Well, you know, for those of you who heard the last podcast where we went on and on and on about parking, and how close you one needs to park to a column. Charlie went and parked so dangerously close to the column today that I-I was nervous that he possibly scratched his car.

Charlie: I'm literally behind the column-

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: -and my-

Glenn: At an angle no less.

Charlie: -my right wheel did touch the- touch the column. And that's when I was like, "Okay, that's close enough. I'll park."

Glenn: Yeah. My God,

Rob: I wanna believe, now, I want to believe that it went one of two ways. And either way is amazing.

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Rob: The first way that I wanna believe is that you backed that thing up at like 55 and slammed on the brakes and just stopped and got out.

Glenn: Right.

Rob: Now that didn't happen. But I like to believe that it did 'cause it would've been cool.

Glenn: Yeah. Like in a full- in a full slide.

Rob: Yes, full drift. Full drift.

Charlie: Yeah, I drifted in. Yeah. I'd say Tokyo Drift. But I don't- I don't- I don't wanna run the risk of--

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: You don't don't wanna make it- You don't wanna make it specific.

Charlie: Yeah. So I just-- I, uh, California drifted in.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: Well, that's- well that's, you know.

Glenn: Don't-don't. You know.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Um, [crosstalk].

Glenn: Don't stereotype California.

Rob: The other- the other version is you're getting out over and over and over again and checking to make sure how close you get it, which I don't think is what happened either. But I like the idea of thinking you kept getting out-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -and kept looking at it and kept going, "I'm gonna fucking put it right on top of it."

Glenn: Inching it- inching it.

Charlie: I will say, [clears throat] I did it in two moves. So there were no other cars in the garage. That made it a lot easier.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: But I came in, I tossed the tailback at a far-

Glenn: At an extreme angle.

Charlie: At an extreme angle. All right.

Glenn: All right.

Charlie: So I was like, "All right. That's really good"

Glenn: That's actually a good technique.

Charlie: No, the way I parked is ridiculous. [crosstalk] I only do this-

Glenn: No, it's absurd. No, I'm saying-

Charlie: -for this conversation.

Glenn: I'm sure. No, he was clear. That was clear- That was clear.

Charlie: Yeah. I'm-I'm genuinely worried about getting out. Like that's gonna be--

Glenn: As long as you pull forward, your-your wheels are already turned.

Charlie: Should be fine-

Glenn: You should be in good shape. You kept your wheel turned, which was smart.

Charlie: So that the butt went in first. I'm like, "Oh, that's hilarious, I'm behind the pole. Awesome." And then I was thinking about it before I came in. And I'm like, "I can't wait to get in there, and just do the most ridiculous parking."

Glenn: Yeah, I'm going to get so fucking close. I going to get so close.

Charlie: And then- [laughs] and then I was able to, yeah. Turn the wheel in until I felt the wheel hit the pole. I was like, "Perfect,"

Rob: [laughs]

Charlie: "Great" Yeah. I mean, I think I would've been willing to scratch my car for the joke.

Rob: [iaughs]

Glenn: I know you would- I know you would. And I- and I appreciate that about you.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: You're willing to go that far for-

Charlie: Yeah. [laughs]

Glenn: -a good joke. Yeah. No, that's--

Rob: [crosstalk] They're gonna be, I don't understand the technology here. Is there gonna be a possibility for people to go to some sort of site that we could- we could put the photos up 'cause I-I think the photos would also tell a real story here.

Glenn: Yeah, I think the photos would tell the real story here.

Charlie: [crosstalk] A story of our scenario.

Rob: 'Cause Glenn did a park job yesterday that was obscene. [crosstalk] It was obscene, because it was a shot across the bow. He's gonna claim he always do- does that.

Glenn: I do- I do.

Rob: And I'm gonna- I'm gonna say he went the extra. Maybe you, you think that you do, but you don't-

Glenn: No, I do.

Rob: -you never go that tight.

Glenn: No, I do. Swear to God I am-

Rob: That was tight.

Glenn: I'm a maniac. I am an absolute maniac. And because it makes that-

Rob: But we don't know that it extends specifically to parking.

Glenn: It does because-because it bothers me so much when people don't get close. I-I put it upon my-myself to get so obscenely close to the column every single time. Uh, and have done for many years. Uh, that's just how I am. I'm-I'm, I'm a- I'm-I'm a maniac.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: I'm an absolute maniac.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Now, I wanna say, hold on. So I parked next to you today Charlie. Um, and, uh, I, I'm gonna-- I wanna get out ahead of this. Okay? I purposely didn't park too close to the wall this time because I didn't need to. There's a full, like almost a full car width between our cars.

Charlie: Yeah, you could squeeze a garbage truck in there.

Glenn: So I was like, 'There's no point in me getting too close to the wall 'cause we both got so much room to-- I could swing my door open [unintelligible 00:05:59].

Rob: Smile, wait a second. That's disrespectful to the person that could come in after Charlie.

Glenn: No.

Rob: Let's just say Charlie had to leave early.

Glenn: He doesn't.

Rob: It was-- He might.

Glenn: No.

Rob: He does actually.

Charlie: I do.


Rob: He does. Yeah, he does have to leave early.

Glenn: I still, I'm still within the line and I'm still park-parked very close to the wall.

Rob: Okay.

Glenn: To be clear. Okay. I'm just not as absurdly close as I would normally get.

Rob: Okay. Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah. Well, guys, we've settled it.

Glenn: Uh, Charlie, Well-

Rob: Well, no, no. This is an ongoing saga.

Charlie: Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna park like that again. Uh, the next time.

Glenn: Don't think you should- I don't think you should get that.

Charlie: No, that's a comedy park job.

Glenn: Yeah t was a good job. It was great. It was a good bit.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Um, I genuinely enjoyed this episode. A hundred dollar baby.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Um, I remember we had a lot of fun writing it. I Remember us thinking that we were sort of like tapping into some new shit with this, uh, particular episode. I think there's no issue of surrounding this episode. You know what I mean? It's just like, I don't even--

Rob: One thing I don't-- The only one thing that I, whatever, we got into a, uh, into a thing with it, and we used it a bunch, and it- and it worked for the show. But it dates the show is like the parody aspect of it, because we all saw that movie. Right?

Glenn: Oh, the hundred dollar.

Rob: [crosstalk] We all saw a Million Dollar Baby and it was probably either that year or the year right that they won an Oscar. And we were like, "What the fuck is--? What is this movie?"

Glenn: Yeah, why do people like this?

Rob: Why do people even like this movie?

Glenn: It was like terrible.

Rob: It was terrible.

Glenn: It was terrible. No offense to all the people who-who made that movie. Except for people who do action.

Charlie: Well, I haven't gone back. Maybe I'd see it again and-and like it was, you know, good. I don't know. Maybe it was terrible to someone in their 20s, and in your 40s you watching you like, "Oh."

Rob: It was like a boxing movie that you'd seen before. Except this time, like it was just a-a feet from, it was a woman and she was great. And she--

Glenn: That's what I was gonna say. Hillary Swank's performance is great in that film.

Rob: Yeah. She's course. Of course.

Glenn: She's- she's great.

Rob: But then- but then the end, I'm not spoiling anything 'cause the movie's been out for 20 years. In the end, she just rando-randomly gets paralyzed in-in the ring. Very similarly to the way [unintelligible 00:07:52] with clean swim movie.

Charlie: Is that Clint Eastwood movie?

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, yeah.

Charlie: Um, by the way, your memory of the writing of that is misinformed.

Glenn: Okay.

Charlie: We had a very difficult time writing that one.

Glenn: Mm.

Charlie: And I remember that you guys wanted to throw it out. At a certain point you were like, "This just-- This isn't gonna work. Let's just chuck it." And I remember thinking, "Okay, I do see something that we can do to connect these stories. They just weren't feeling connected."

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: I don't remember what that thing was. Remember doing a pass, and then you guys be like, "Okay, yeah, that could work." And then we ju-jumped back into it.

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: But I remember at one point we-we were like, "This one isn't gonna work."

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Rob: It does seem that it's the first time where we got started to get really cartoonish.

Charlie: We did a montage. Our first montage?

Rob: Maybe. Yeah.

Glenn: Uh, no. 'Cause we did a montage in Charlie Has Cancer, but--

Rob: Oh right.

Glenn: Yeah. With the pilot.

Charlie: In the pilot.

Glenn: In the pilot.

Rob: In our pilot.


Rob: But-but-but the reason I say it's cartoonish is that we-we got you guys like hooked onto-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -some kind of steroid, which then I almost immediately turned you into like animals.

Charlie: But we did the same thing two episodes before with crack.

Glenn: It's one of the first time-- No, but you know what it is?

Rob: But if that is what crack would do.

Charlie: Well I don't know for steroids. Rob, why don't you tell us about the steroid use?

Glenn: Yeah, Rob, tell to us about steroids.

Charlie: Why don't you go- why don't you go into that?

Glenn: I'm happy to walk you through if guys wanna do a whole episode about steroids, you know, I'm very interested in the male form.

Charlie: Let's not cycle through that?

Glenn: [crosstalk] No, I'm sure. I'm sure Dax Shepherd's got that-that area covered. You know? [crosstalk] He did the whole male bodies-- [unintelligible 00:09:17] talk about it. [crosstalk] Yeah, he gets all, he just obsession with male bodies.

Charlie: Um, it was thrilling here.

Glenn: It was. I enjoyed actually.

Charlie: No, I enjoyed too. You both listened to-

Glenn: But it's covered. It's covered.

Charlie: Yeah, of course, man. He's got a good podcast.

Rob: Yeah. [laughs]

Glenn: Absolutely.

Charlie: That's how you do it.

Rob: [laughs]

Charlie: No. Uh, where were we? Uh, yeah, cartoonish.

Rob: This is funny.

Glenn: Like I-I, am I wrong in thinking like we started doing like bits in this episode? I don't recall us really doing like bits before this. Like for instance, I remember one of the first times I had trouble getting through a scene was in this when we were shooting the scene where we're [crosstalk] massaging-

Rob: Massaging.

Glenn: -where I'm massaging Charlie.

Charlie: Yeah, and I-I remember I was like uh, something clicked for me there where I was like, "Oh, this is really funny to me." And it was- and it's such a stupid little bit. And something clicked for me there and we started doing-- I think started doing more things that we were just like, "You know what? I don't know why this is funny. It's just funny. It's funny behavior, funny human behavior shit."

Charlie: There's a weird balance in that episode between the really broad stuff, like weightlifting jokes, or shaving your face, or whatever. And, uh, and then yeah, the much more subtler like, well like, you know, just like what type of wood it is that I punched-

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: Right.

Charlie: -and like that-that conversation.

Glenn: Yeah. That kind of stuff.

Charlie: I enjoyed those- I enjoyed those conversations so much.

Glenn: Yeah, exactly-exactly. Like the clown baby bit too. I remember like--

Charlie: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Glenn: Watch where I'm from. Do you remember where that came from? Do you remember where that came from?

Rob: I'm-I'm gonna- I'm gonna suggest that I remember and may- and maybe you--

Glenn: Okay

Rob: And I'm gonna- gonna lay this out and-and maybe I'm dead wrong.

Glenn: Sure.

Rob: But I-I-I distinctly remember having a conversation where Charlie was like, "I don't, I feel like in every episode-

Charlie: Yes.

Rob: -we're taking my character to a cartoonish place where he's this like baby clown, clown baby." [laughs] And like, "I don't wanna fucking do that. I don't wanna be a clown baby." And we were like, "Okay. I-I understand-- we understand that, but it's also really funny and like maybe it's--

Charlie: It's funny, that doesn't sound like me not-not to wanna be a clown baby.

Rob: I think it was just like--

Glenn: You are absolutely right. I totally remember that.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: 100%. It was you describing yourselves as being like a- like a clown.

Charlie: Yeah-yeah.

Glenn: Like a dumb clown baby.

Rob: [laughs]

Glenn: And then that sticking with us and being like, "Clown baby's just funny." And then when we got to that episode, we were like, "Ooh. Let's put that in."

Charlie: I think it's also from a running joke about a really funny email, which could be--

Rob: Clown baby [crosstalk]

Charlie: Yeah. Clownbaby.fart.

Rob: No it's Clown Penis.

Charlie: Oh, clown penis.

Glenn: That's from SNL.

Charlie: Which is an SNL thing.

Rob: Yes.

Charlie: Clownpenis.fart.

Rob: No, I'm-I'm-I'm-I'm almost 100% that you-you were like, well it wasn't that you were unwilling to go to places, it was just like, "Ah, I feel like I'm turning into a cartoon character."

Charlie: Ah.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: And then- and then it turned into Clown Baby and then we put that in the show, and then you were by far the funniest in the show. And then we were like, "Well's just all be clown babies."

Glenn: Oh, let's all be clowns. Yeah.

Rob: Which we eventually got.

Charlie: Yeah-yeah. Except me. And then we're like, then well--

Rob: Then we dialed you back a little bit.

Charlie: You dialed me back. Yeah. Trying to reign me in, you fuckers. [laughs]

Rob: Well, I-I stole a major bit from you in this episode. Um--

Charlie: Oh, what is it?

Rob: You might have even actually suggested that I steal it 'cause it's- it was probably your pitch, and it's, I, to me it is really funny. But in the first season when we did the Nazi episode, right?

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Uh, you thought it was gonna be really funny if we- if when I opened the door to reveal you wearing the Nazi uniform-

Glenn: Oh, the banana.

Rob: You were casually eating this banana. Right?

Glenn: Right.

Rob: Which was really funny. And then in this second season--

Glenn: You-you came up with that on the day-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -as I recall, that wasn't in the script. You were just like, "It'd be funnier if I'm just doing-

Rob: If I'm doing something very casual.

Glenn: -eating the dumbest food possible."

Charlie: Really?

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: Yes. So then- so then in this episode--

Charlie: This guy sounds so interesting to me, this-this Charlie guy.

Glenn: This Charlie Day guy?

Charlie: And, uh, yeah. What else does he--

Rob: And then in this- in this episode, you-you would've been behind the monitors. So you would've either suggested, or I would've just straight upset--

Charlie: The Banana Rob.

Rob: I would've said, "I'm just gonna steal this from you." And then it was the reveal that we are at this- at this event, and we're just casually eating. I'm just casually eating.

Charlie: Oh, yeah.

Glenn: Just a brutal underground fighting, uh, situation. Like a, you know, real blood sport kind of a thing. And Yeah.

Rob: So I'm sure fans looked at that and they were like, "Oh, it's like a running thing where these guys are casually eating food when they have these like very [unintelligible 00:13:31]," but really it's just me stealing.

Charlie: Well no--

Glenn: But that is what it-- That was the idea behind it. It was like, we thought that was funny. We're like, "No, that is funny." It's funny to be in a situation like this and just be casually eating the dumbest possible food.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Um.

Charlie: I think to our credit, none of us have ever cared about that stuff. You know? It's like, "Hey man, that's my joke," or like that-that would've been a toxic environment for creating something. We're like, "Okay, I did, something's funny. If you do it and it's funny when in the next scene when you're doing it, great." You know, good job.

Glenn: Yeah. I mean there's-- I'm sure there's a line where like, you know, a line that could be crossed where like if I, you know, I literally started doing every fucking funny thing that you ever did, until it's like fully made it my persona. That would probably be pretty irritating.

Charlie: Sure. [laughs]

Glenn: But it also be bad acting on my part.

Charlie: I've heard us do it like we do a take, someone does an improv, two takes later. Someone else-

Rob: Someone else is already taking the line, and it's like unconscious.

Charlie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Glenn: Yes, that is-is true. That does happen.

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah. That's a little irritating.

Rob: We knew a lot, we had a lot of friends in this- in this episode. Like we knew a lot of these people.

Charlie: A lot of friends.

Glenn: Like yes. Um.

Charlie: Well, the beginning of the show, that's pretty much how we were casting things.

Glenn: But I mean, this one is like, I mean like Jason Vanover-

Rob: Yep.

Glenn: Uh, who's my buddy from college who played the guy who mugs us in the alley in the beginning, and in the end.

Rob: Jesse Ward?

Glenn: Uh, Jesse Ward, who I also knew from when I was in college, although she was next door, um, at the School of American Ballet. So I've known her for years.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: Um, uh, Katie Chrysler, who plays the, uh, the-

Rob: Drug dealer.

Glenn: -the drug dealer who gets, uh, these steroids for her. She also went to college with her.

Charlie: Talking about cartoon, you know, the choice to reveal her popping up in that frame like that.

Glenn: That was so cartoonish.

Charlie: Like, I--

Rob: Do you remember in-in the script? Do you remember what it said in the script? I-I remember this.

Glenn: She came out from the shadows.

Rob: She came, as she emerged from the shadows.

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: And they were like-

Charlie: I remember that too.

Rob: -we don't have the capability to create shadows.

Charlie: We can't make a shadow.

Rob: Yeah. So let's--

Charlie: Yeah. That requires, uh

Rob: 100%.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: And then she says at the end, "Let's lurk back into the shadows."

Glenn: So we were like, "Well, we're gonna get it in the dialogue then."

Rob: Yeah. But there is no shadow to lurk into.

Glenn: No, there are no, no.

Rob: She just popped up.

Charlie: And isn't that funny? Like, you know, nowadays if we came to set, and they, you know, and they'd let the scene, and they're like, "Yeah. So we couldn't come up with a shadow." We'd be like, "Sorry, go make a shadow, and then we'll-we'll shoot- we'll shoot with a shadow."

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Like, what, what are you talking about?

Glenn: Unless-unless it was going to add half an hour to our day, in which case we'd go, "It's probably fine if she just pops up. Right?"


Charlie: Which is probably what we did. Fair to say, "Ah, we don't really need to shadow. That's fine. Let's keep it moving."

Glenn: It doesn't matter. Just have her have her pop up into the frame.

Rob: Guys, we've rented this gym for two hours, so we gotta shoot all these scenes.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: So let's, uh, let's talk about Eddie Mecca.

Charlie: Eddie Mecca.

Glenn: Sure. Well, another-another great friend- great friend of Danny's, if I recall correctly.

Rob: Oh God.

Charlie: No, that's--

Glenn: It was hard to tell whether Danny genuinely hated that guy-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -or if he was just in character.

Charlie: I think that's something that Danny does.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Like, sometimes if the character's gonna be really upset, Danny will stay a little bit upset.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: But then I think, I can't tell if he starts to become upset because he is been acting upset, and it's affecting him. Or if Eddie Mecca was just annoying the shit outta Danny. Either way, those scenes are great. That guy is hilarious for me.

Glenn: He's fucking hilarious.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: He's great. And do you guys remember that? Okay. So when he has the line, uh, pan--

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: You know, don't get your panties in an uproar.

Rob: Yeah. That wasn't written.

Glenn: That was not written. The-the line that we wrote was don't get your panties in a bunch or a twist. I don't remember if it was a twist or a bunch.

Rob: Yeah, either way, it was-- yeah. It was the more funny.

Charlie: Panties in an uproar. [crosstalk]

Glenn: Like he-he in a take or-or in the rehearsal, I don't remember what it was. He just went up on the line and mixed his metaphors and--

Charlie: Oh, did he go up on it?

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: And that's why it went so much better. Panties in an uproar.

Glenn: Panties in an-- Yeah. Don't, yeah, exactly.

Charlie: Don't get your panties in uproar is one of my favorite things anyone said in the show ever.

Glenn: And then we went to him after that take or the rehearsal or whenever it was that he said it. And we said, "Eddie, you accidentally said don't get your panties in an uproar. That's the line now."

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: That is now the line. And so that became the line in every other take.

Charlie: Let me ask you about this- about this episode.

Glenn: Mm.

Charlie: The final sequence, the slow motion sequence. Did we shoot that on film?

Glenn: Yes. We shoot- we shot that with the phantom camera. So no, it wouldn't have been film.

Rob: Did we have the Phantom for that?

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Are you sure? Because why are the lights blinking? Why is that so shitty?

Charlie: Because-because we shot it on what-whatever we shot it on, those lights started strobing.

Glenn: Yes. But I don't think we shot it on film. I thought we shot it that Phantom, which was like the first super high-speed camera. We should look into that.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: I remember- I remember that, but I--

Rob: I thought the first time we used the Phantom was in the Christmas episode.

Glenn: It could be, which means maybe we shot this with film, but that wouldn't have created that strobing thing.

Rob: I don't know what-- I'm not sure what we did.

Charlie: I don't know. We shot it with something different, which is because we couldn't slow down our cameras to-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -slow enough to get- to get it to look how we wanted to look. But

Glenn: I remember in the-

Charlie: I though it was film.

Glenn: -I remember in the editing room we tried a lot of different music choices for that.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: And then when we came across Moonlight Sonata.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: I remember- I remember, you know, we weren't totally sure. We're like, "This is a little felt like, um--"

Charlie: Heavy?

Glenn: Yeah-yeah-yeah. It felt heavy and maybe a little-- yeah. Right. Like normally we would- we would compose, or we would put something very light in such a heavy moment.

Charlie: Right. Cut against it.

Glenn: There was something about it that just was so disturbing and beautiful. And I couldn't-- By the way, I had to cover my eyes when she- when she, I-I can't watch it when she breaks her neck on that stool.

Charlie: It's upsetting.

Glenn: I really can't watch it.

Charlie: How did we do that? It looked so--

Glenn: Did we do it in reverse?

Rob: We would-would not have been sophisticated enough to do that.

Charlie: We were but Dan Attias might have.

Rob: Yeah, that's true.

Charlie: So we probably did that in reverse.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: No. Could we?

Glenn: No, I don't know. I don't know.

Charlie: How do you do that in reverse?

Glenn: I could ask Jesse.

Charlie: Someone pulls her up?

Glenn: I don't think so--

Rob: You would've seen her arm go up? Yeah. I think she went down and-

Glenn: I think she went down.

Rob: Did it really slowly maybe?

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: I think someone held her arm and-

Glenn: Oh, maybe.

Charlie: -we pulled her up.

Glenn: Maybe.

Rob: Maybe

Charlie: God, because if we could remember things.

Glenn: I will- I will ask.

Rob: We remember enough.

Charlie: You remember most things? I'm upset you can't remember this. Is it film?

Glenn: Yeah, I don't--

Charlie: Or is it some sort of phantom camera.


Rob: Or is it a phantom camera?

Charlie: Was it a phantom camera that we shot?

Glenn: Okay, let's-let's put that on the list of questions to--

Charlie: Either way, it looks terrible.

Glenn: It looks terrible. [laughs]

Charlie: The strobing, guys come on.

Rob: Meg has a note. Uh, a note here. Please talk about the background actor in the gym who's holding the towel and keeps looking at the camera.

Charlie: Oh, Craig. That guy was great.

Glenn: He was.

Rob: Wow.

Charlie: I mean--

Glenn: Well he wasn't- he wasn't, right?

Charlie: He wasn't- he wasn't. And that's why he was so fun.

Glenn: Yeah, he was- he was, um, he was great, but not probably for the reasons that he thought. Um, I think, well I don't know what was going through his head, but the-the absolutely bewildered look on his face was by the way, why we put him in that role. Because we wanted some guy-- [chuckles] I just think the name Craig is funny. I apologize to all the Craigs out there, but I just think the name Craig is funny. We named him Craig. And, uh, he's just, uh, he's Eddie Mecc-- He's Bobby Thundernos lackey.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: And he's just always standing behind him leering and [chuckles] Meg's. Right. He's just was-- we couldn't get him to stop looking into the camera. That's the guy you're talking about, right?

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah. He was so like nervous and there's some, you know?

Glenn: Yeah. He didn't know what he was doing.

Charlie: No. He was not an actor.

Rob: No.

Charlie: He was-he was-- was he an extra, Sorry? Was he-

Glenn: I think he was an extras casting-

Charlie: That we just grabbed and said, "You got a funny look go and--"

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: And then he, he wound up being one of the better things of the episode.

Glenn: Yeah. Just a man who constantly looks like, uh, he's worried that he's either, that he doesn't know whether he's doing the right thing or.

Charlie: That's a little bit of a rip-off of the guy in Big Lebowski who's with John Totoro. Uh.

Glenn: Yes, totally. When Yeah. The-the-the-the, um,

Charlie: He's got like a bowling lackey.

Glenn: Yeah. The guy with the-the-the, um, the military haircut.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: That kind of overweight guy with the mustache who's been in like also a million movies.

Charlie: Really?

Glenn: Yeah. Always just playing like somebody in the background, or has like one line or something.

Charlie: Oh.

Glenn: That guy. Yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about.

Charlie: Yeah. [laughs] But that's a good bit too. Uh, what else from that story?

Rob: Do you remember where the, uh, the line, "I will eat your babies, bitch," comes from?

Glenn: Yes. Actually, I was gonna talk about this.

Charlie: Mike Tyson.

Glenn: That's Mike Tyson. But I think he was in an interview and he said, "I will eat his babies." Cuz he was doing an interview with somebody, and they were saying like, "How do you think it's gonna go?" He's like, "I'm gonna destroy him. I'm gonna beat him. I'm gonna beat him senseless. I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna eat his babies."

Rob: Mr. Spielberg, you came back into the room. [laughs]

Glenn: Well, I just wanted to, I-I, Okay, fair enough. Yeah. Sorry guys. I don't mean to, I don't mean to interrupt. I just, I-I heard you guys talking about Mike Tyson, and I felt like I did a pretty good Mike Tyson impersonation, so.

Charlie: No, that's pretty good.

Glenn: I gotta get back in the edit. I gotta, I got 500 movies coming out.

Rob: Well, thanks for coming in, man.

Glenn: Appreciate it. Good to see you Steve.

Charlie: All right.

Rob: Always good to see you pal.


Charlie: Doing the montage, remember you had to break the things over my back?

Rob: And I remember it hurting more than you-you thought it would, right?

Glenn: Yeah, I remember that hurting you too. Yeah. You wore, you had a pat on it.

Charlie: It still-- I had some kind of tears. The thing on my back hurt the glass over my head did not hurt-

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: -but I hate that. I closed my eyes before you hit me-

Rob: Mm.

Charlie: -you know, which was like-- And I think they were like-

Glenn: I remember you being bummed about that when we did it, and us being like, "It's fine."

Charlie: It's fine. And I still watch him like, "God dammit," like, you know.

Glenn: Yeah. But what are you supposed to do? I mean, you know, you, you're-

Charlie: You're supposed to not see it coming, and get smashed in the head, much funnier. Much--

Glenn: Yeah. But what if the little-little sugar glass got in your eyeballs?

Charlie: Well.

Glenn: And you were--

Rob: Well, it's sugar, just wipe it out.

Charlie: I pulled that car. I remember pulling that car.

Glenn: Yes you did. Yeah. You did pulled the car.

Rob: Not that hard though.

Charlie: Not that hard.

Glenn: When a car's in neutral, you can pull it.

Charlie: Well you think it would be hard. And then you're like, "Oh, well it's designed to roll."

Glenn: It is designed to roll, and it is in neutral and-

Charlie: It's neutral.

Glenn: Uh, you know, you're not, you're not pulling it, you weren't actually pulling it through snow, so.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Um, but it must have felt pretty cool.

Charlie: Felt cool.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Felt really cool.

Glenn: Yeah. I enjoyed the ride. I enjoyed going for the ride. Um, is this the first time we used the phrase, "Pop your shirt off."?

Rob: Probably. I think so.

Glenn: Yeah, that was a phrase that, um, I admittedly stole from two other college buddies of mine who, uh, every once in a while would say that, um, they'd be like, like, "Let me pop this shirt off." And I just remember thinking, "That's really funny." And so we just, I just stole it from 'em. [chuckles]

Rob: What other- what other people did you go to college with? Let's talk.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: I went to college with a lot of people. I mean, a lot of people went to my college. A lot of people go to college

Charlie: Mm.

Glenn: - and I knew the people that were at my college, and so I called upon them.

Charlie: Well also it was-it was an entertainment, uh, driven college. So guy-

Glenn: Let's just say it, I went to Juilliard.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah. No, we know.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: I think we talked about that already.

Glenn: I'm sure we have. Um, it's not that interesting, but, um, but yeah, a lot of Juilliard folks in this, in that Jason Vanover, Juilliard, Katie Chrysler, Juilliard.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: I-I feel like we're forgetting so-- I feel like there's somebody, there's other-

Rob: Oh, Sean Toomey.

Charlie: Oh, Sean Toomey.

Glenn: Sean Toomey. Yeah.

Charlie: That's the clown baby scene, right?

Rob: That's the clown baby scene. Yeah.

Charlie: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: Yeah. Sean, who we were friends with for like a year, and then he went-

Rob: Yeah and took off. He took off. Took off and he went, he went--

Glenn: He was on a pirate reality show-

Rob: Correct.

Glenn: -and then disappeared off the factory.

Rob: He moved back to Virginia Beach, and then Florida.

Charlie: Explain a pirate. So in reality he's a pirate. Like what is a reality pirate?

Rob: Sure, sure, sure. But

Glenn: Sure. That's a fair question.

Charlie: What is a reality show?

Rob: It's a very fair question. This was right at the height, although-- Survivor.

Glenn: Shit like that.

Rob: And so they were making like new reality type series, and one of them-

Charlie: Become pirate and-and create some reality.

Rob: You lived, yeah. Yes. You lived on a pirate ship.

Glenn: Right.

Rob: And then the, and then you had these various tasks to I guess that were very analogous to the way it was to live as a pirate. And then, uh, you won.


Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: You won-

Charlie: A captain Phillips style Pirate ship?

Rob: No, we're talking about like Caribbean--

Charlie: A black beard style pirate ship. Sure

Rob: I'm sure Pirates of the Caribbean one-eye Willy. Yeah.

Charlie: Uh-huh. Yeah yeah. Those pirates.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Captain Hook. Captain Hook.

Rob: He did that. He did that. And he was a contestant on that.

Charlie: Correct.

Rob: And then, and he, and then-

Glenn: I don't think he did that well as I recall. I feel like I watched a little bit. I think he got eliminated relatively early-

Rob: Mm.

Glenn: -but I don't remember why. Which is surprising 'cause he's a big strong strapping-

Rob: Strapping-pirate-pirate type man.

Glenn: -intelligent as I recall and, uh, quite good with his hands uh, good with-

Charlie: How was he with-with his hook.

Rob: Yeah. Fair enough.

Glenn: Right. That's true. You put a hook on your dominant hand-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -and you're gonna have some trouble yeah.

Charlie: Yeah. That's the thing.

Glenn: I remember I have-- So Sean Toomey, you know, I, we-we would go surfing together and uh, there was this one time where Sean, I was at his and Zach Knighton's place uh, 'cause they, I believe were roommates, or maybe Zach had moved out at that point.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: But they were right on the beach. So I used to go to his place and we'd surf and, you know, eat jelly beans afterwards 'cause for some reason that's what surfers do to get the salt taste out of their mouth, or that's what we did. I don't know. Anyway. Um, and, uh, I needed a ride back to my, to my apartment. Sean's like, "I'll you just hop on my motorcycle and we'll, we'll, I'll go back," and, and-and, and now I'll admit I'm-- I don't like motorcycles.

I'm not, I've never been on, I'd never really, I don't think I'd ever been on a motorcycle. And he's like, "It's fine." This, motherfucker like, it was like he was in a motorcycle race.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: And I was like, "Sean, fuck, I don't wanna die. I don't wanna die from this."

Charlie: Sorry bro, it's the jelly beans coursing through my veins.

Glenn: Yeah. I-I-I remember being really fucking pissed off at him for-for putting my life in danger.

Charlie: It's like, "Dude, I'm going 30 miles an hour."

Glenn: He probably was, but, but he got to 30 too fast.

Charlie: It's-it's a motorcycle, it feels--.

Glenn: It got from zero to 30 too fast.

Charlie: Yeah. Uh, do you still surf?

Glenn: No, I don't surf anymore. No. I was never very good at it.

Rob: If you look closely in that episode, I was, I was looking at it and going, "I look strange in this one part in the underground episode." I'm like bright red and then Sean Toomey is bright red and I'm like, "Was that hot in there?" And then I remembered that the-- That weekend and the day before we were out on the beach and got-

Charlie: You guys were sunburned?

Rob: -so fucking sunburned.

Charlie: I remember you came to set sunburned.

Rob: That's right. Yeah. And I just-

Charlie: This looks crazy.

Rob: Yeah. I looked crazy.

Charlie: Right.

Rob: And they tried to like put makeup on it, and you can still tell it's like we're just bright red.

Glenn: Yeah Toomey was burned as fuck in that scene. Right?

Rob: Yeah. Both of us. We looked ridiculous.

Charlie: The little guy that you go to fight cracks me up.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: That guy in the-the back of that shot.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: So that's the thing.


Glenn: Um, I really enjoy that. We used the, uh, the song from the Karate Kid-

Charlie: Sure.

Glenn: -um, and montage. Um, I don't know that that's something that we would do now, but I found it very amusing at the time. Karate Kid's like one of my favorite movies. It still is. That movie holds up.

Rob: It holds up. I watch it with my kids, and loved every second of it.

Glenn: It's fantastic.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: That movie is fantastic. Um, that song is terrible.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Uh, but I love it. Um, performed by Mr. Joe Bean Esposito. I don't believe it was written by him.

Rob: Okay.

Glenn: So they were like, "You know what, who, who's the best guy we can get to perform this awesome song?"

Charlie: Who's the best around?

Glenn: Who's the best around? Joe Bean.

Charlie: Joe Bean.

Glenn: Let's get, let's see if we can, let's see if we can get-

Charlie: Can you get Joe-

Glenn: Can we get Joe Bean Esposito for this?

Charlie: He's the best around?

Glenn: Yeah. Uh, he's the, he's not the best, but he's the best that was around.

Charlie: Well, he's around.

Glenn: But he is around.

Charlie: He's the best that's around right now.

Glenn: There. There's a [laughs]

Charlie: Not the best, by the way, best around

Glenn: That applies to a karate tournament in Reseda, doesn't it? Right.

Charlie: Sure.

Glenn: He's not the best karate kid on the planet, and he's the best in Reseda.

Charlie: Yeah, but he's the best one around Reseda. Around this Dojo in Reseda.

Glenn: Yeah. He's the best that they had around.

Rob: There was another actor in there, um, who was on a television series back in the mid to late '80s with-

Charlie: Sopranos.

Rob: With no, no, no.

Charlie: Oh, oh, oh, oh. Uh, John- Uh, Don.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yes. Don.

Rob: Well here's what's even stranger. Okay.

Glenn: Sometimes Dan.

Rob: He was. Yes. Okay. So he was on a series with our friend Jason Bateman-

Glenn: Right.

Rob: -called uh, Valerie.

Glenn: And that's what it was. Yeah.

Charlie: Then Valerie's Family.

Rob: -and they, and then changed it to [unintelligible 00:29:28]

Charlie: And then the Hogan family Hogan.

Glenn: I'm sorry I keep interrupting you. I'm sorry.

Rob: No. You're excited.

Charlie: I like it. It's adding energy to this podcast.

Glenn: Okay, good.

Rob: And so he played, um, he played one of the kids in that- in that show.

Glenn: That's what it was.

Rob: Right. And then his name. So I looked it up, 'cause I was like, "Oh, I wanna look him up." He is credited as Don Ponts.

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: And I'm like, Oh, okay. Don Ponts. So I look up Don Ponts. Don Ponts doesn't exist on IMDB. He just doesn't exist.

Glenn: He's Daniel Ponts.

Rob: Yeah. Well, yes. He's sometimes credited as Luis Ponts. Sometimes he's Luis, Daniel Ponts, sometimes he's Danny Ponts, and this time he was Don Ponts.

Glenn: Jesus [unintelligible 00:30:07].

Rob: He tried on Don Ponts for one credit and then moved on from it.

Glenn: Right.

Rob: Or we fucked that up.

Charlie: Or much more [unintelligible 00:30:13]

Rob: Much more like--

Glenn: Or he was embarrassed that he did our show and didn't want [unintelligible 00:30:19]

Charlie: Also fair. Also fair. Also fair.

Rob: And the end of your storyline.

Charlie: Yes.

Rob: Is just you beating him up?

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: That's it. Well, yeah, sometimes that's how shit ends.

Glenn: And by the way, I wanted to ask you, you in the scene leading up to that where you're eating the, uh, steak.

Charlie: The hoagie. The hoagie..

Glenn: I, well actually, yeah. Okay. Yeah. The hoagie. You, you okay. Well right. No, that was the seat. Right. When we are, when we're in there, and we're like, "You're gonna meet us there?" And we're like, "Yes, I'll meet you there. I'll meet you there." And then you go to eat the hoagy and you cycle through so many different emotions.

Charlie: Thanks, man.

Glenn: In the eating of that hoagy. Do you remember like-like thinking-- What, what do you remember thinking when you were shooting that? Because it's such a strange and interesting choice.

Charlie: I think I remember thinking like how fun it is to just-

Glenn: Right.

Charlie: -completely let it rip. Right Which is to be like okay that you don't, there's no like-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -limitation to your choices here, because you're a man out of control of yourself.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: And then just trying to feel into each one, and then being pleased as though I was like, "Oh, that really."

Glenn: Well, yeah. I just remember thinking was very funny. The idea of like cycling between extreme joy and like teary sadness.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: You know, all within like milliseconds.

Charlie: Yeah. It's- I'm a little bit bummed. Have never kind of gotten to do it again. Like, which is like, "What a fun thing to get to do." Just like let it go man. Like if suddenly you something amuses you dive right into that. Right? And then if you feel a hint of anger for a second, chase that down and then, you know, there's no--

Glenn: You feel, you feel boxed in now on the show? Do you feel show's getting reigned in?

Charlie: I feel-- No, I like the show just in general.

Glenn: Oh.

Charlie: That would be a very bizarre choice to do for any sort of scene.

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know, if you did it too many times though people would be like.

Charlie: It wouldn't be funny anymore.

Glenn: It wouldn't be funny.

Charlie: You did. You did it the one time.

Glenn: Yeah, it was, it was, it was special. It was special.

Charlie: Thanks man. I'm proud of that moment.

Glenn: You should be.

Charlie: I like it. I like it.

Glenn: Um,

Charlie: I'm also proud of your outfits in that, uh, you know, with the Kangol hat.

Glenn: Oh yeah. Yeah.

Rob: Oh yeah. Yeah. Total [unintelligible 00:32:17].

Charlie: They look great man. I think that's the first time we put you guys in like funny outfits, right?

Glenn: Uh, yeah.

Rob: Probably. Well no, I mean the Jihad episode and we were-

Glenn: Right.

Rob: But that was a costume-

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: -put on when we were supposed to be fake terrorists.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: There's a very stupid, silly joke in this that I-I always thought was really funny, and I still think it's was funny. I remember it was funny on the day, uh, was that we were boxing trainers. So the thought is ostensibly we were waking you up at 4:00 AM to go training, and then so you're-you're fast asleep in your- in your room and we're banging on the door, and you were slowly waking up, and the joke is, it's-

Glenn: Guys, it's 11:00 AM.

Rob: -11:00 AM.

Charlie: It's 11:00 AM, yeah. What are you doing?

Glenn: It sounds stupid.

Rob: But it's so funny to me.

Charlie: Yeah. There's no actual clock in my apartment, so I just have to look somewhere on the wall. And it's 11:00 AM.

Glenn: Now was the idea that-that the-the bag of chips in the beer that's in your hand as you're waking up was from the night before?

Rob: Yeah. Right.

Glenn: Or-or-or, did you wake up in the morning, have some beer-

Charlie: Have some chips and beer and fall back asleep on the couch.

Glenn: And fall back asleep. Not sure.

Charlie: Not determined. Do you remember there's a little debate as to whether or not you were gonna bang that rubber--?

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: I wanted a metal trash can, and they were like-

Glenn: You did?

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Woo.

Charlie: And production was like, "You can't do that." But I'm like, "It's funnier if it's gonna make crash, and make a metal noise."

Rob: Right.

Charlie: And we tried to figure out how to safely do it, and I was like, "Aren't they kind of lightweight? Like won't, won't it like dent it naturally?" [chuckles]

Glenn: Well now what we would do is we'd go to the props department and we'd be like, "We want it to look like a metal trash can, figure it out."

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: And then we would walk out of the room, and that would be the end of it.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: And then we would show up on the day, and if there wasn't a metal trash can there, or one that looked like one, heads would fucking roll. 'Cause we're mean.

Rob: When was the last time a head rolled on this show?

Glenn: We don't roll heads. We're-we're nice.

Charlie: What about fights? What about fighting? Have we talked about fighting on the show? Have we?

Glenn: I don't think. No, we haven't talked, I don't think we've talked about like-- Are you talking about like us getting in actual fights? Us as he-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -us as the, as people not characters.

Charlie: Yeah. A lot of fighting in, hundred dollar baby.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: And us as human beings and physical altercations.

Glenn: Yeah, boy.

Rob: Well I know Sean Toomey, that was like, you were alluding to this already, but he was like known for just beating the shit out of people, and I would not want to get into a fight with him.

Glenn: No.

Charlie: That's a big guy.

Rob: He's big guy, but he's also like a, he was like an amateur boxer.

Glenn: I-I'm also happy to say I never witnessed it. I-I-I wouldn't wanna see that.

Rob: No.

Glenn: Well we old- too old by that point.

Charlie: And a pirate- a pirate right?

Glenn: Pirate say they don't play by the same rules, you know what I mean?

Charlie: No. He's got a knife in his teeth, and a parrot that will, you know, the parrot might attack you.

Glenn: The parrot's gonna get involved. Yeah. He's gonna pack your eyes out.

Charlie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Parrot knows it's gonna get some good crackers, if he takes an eye out.

Glenn: Absolutely. Polly wants an eyeball. Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah. Polly wants a finger.


Charlie: I'll say this about the episode, going back to the episode. I did- I did feel like watching it, that we are really with the show hitting some sort of stride where we're like, "Well this feels like a TV show," where, you know, you watch the first season and you're like, "Well what is this? What are we doing?" And then by-by this time I feel like we're, we're finding our own voice, and I-I noticed that we transitioned from some scenes without any music, and I'm like, "Oh, we should go back to that."

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Like, there's some things we just, like the one where you're rubbing my shoulders, we just cut into the bar-

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: -and there's no like-

Glenn: Oh that would, that would've ruined it. That would've ruined it.

Charlie: It would- it would've ruined that scene.

Glenn: The silence, the awkward silence between the, "Mm."

Charlie: Yeah. Yeah.

Glenn: And the breaths that, that makes it funny. So you put music under that, you fuck it up, you fuck it up.

Charlie: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: I would say in general, we score our show much less than other shows score, um, things because to me it's-it's-it's sometimes it's a little bit of a cheat, right? It's like, "The scene's not working. We need to put music in here to make the scene work." Now we do-do that sometimes. We do that sometimes. around.

Charlie: So it's amazing how sometimes it fix it fixes it like where you're working-

Glenn: Right song.

Charlie: -working a scene, working scene. You're like, "God, something's off." And then you're like, "Let's try one of our sunny cues," and you're, oh my God, the scene works.

Glenn: Yeah. All of a sudden it works, or you score it with something else, or yeah.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah. I think we were resistant to that too 'cause this was around the time and then that continued for a few years where like there was like these big hit network comedies that were on and it would be wall to wall music.

Glenn: Right.

Rob: Fucking wall to wall. Like it would never let up.

Charlie: Yep.

Rob: And these shows would come on, and they'd--

Charlie: It drove me crazy.

Rob: They'd be marketed the hell, you'd see billboards for them everywhere. They'd be the new smash hit for six weeks, and then you'd never see them again.

Glenn: Yeah. Some wacky fucking score just going through every single scene. It drove me insane.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: It drove me crazy. Yeah. So we made a very, we actually made a very conscious effort not to do that as I recall. Yeah. What, what?

Rob: I'm just, I-I like, I like that we feel, we constantly are making a joke about, on this show about how things, and this is based on a bit we do in the show, that we just do-do a bunch of things, and then it just sort of ends, and I'm-I'm getting that's how you, that truly is the-the what the podcast is like. You, we all collectively feel like it's just sort of-

Glenn: Yeah. You kind of feel it right?

Rob: -it's just sort of over.

Glenn: The energy starts to dip.

Rob: We don't have to force it. I mean, guys we're in, we've done 50 minutes, you know?

Glenn: We kind, we're gonna cut 20 minutes out anyway.

Rob: Maybe, maybe. Or maybe it's all gold. I don't know.

Charlie: Yeah, I know. Does feel like we start digging at a certain point.

Glenn: But I do. No, no. I will say though, I do wanna say this one last thing, like about this episode. To me, there's something about it that does feel like, is this, I mean, am I wrong in thinking this is the first time we really kind of did an episode that really just is not about a-a sort of a major issue? It's just a dumb fucking episode where the characters, episode where the characters just doing dumb shit.

Charlie: Well, the, the-

Glenn: You know what I mean?

Charlie: Like, I brought this up about the one before where I, where I'm saying, uh, I felt like Mac's banging Dennis's mom was just, just about characters.

Glenn: That's true.

Charlie: And their relationship to one another and--

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah. And-

Rob: That was just the last episode.

Charlie: It's okay. He just forgot one thing then I said, but that's no big deal. Yeah.

Rob: I just forgot the one. Just the one thing.

Charlie: It's just the one thing.

Glenn: Just the one thing. Yeah.

Charlie: He was-- He never let go of the parking in his mind that whole episode.

Glenn: Yeah. I struggled on that last one guys. I really did. I was not, I just wasn't really in a good mood. I didn't have a lot of energy and I was, I think you're right. I think coming in it, I think doing the podcast at noon is-- anything past 10:00 is really just, you know, you're getting the--

Rob: You know what we should try, uh, we should do one podcast. Uh, well, I, these have been heavily caffeinated for you, but we should try one where you're just fucking hammered. We should do one like that. Well, we should. So we see what happens, right?

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: We talk about that in the ep- in this episode where we're just like, "Well, everything is gonna be enhanced with us being, uh, drunk."

Glenn: Yeah. Get in, get, get a little brown in us.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: Maybe.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: Some brown.

Rob: Mm-hmm. Yeah. We can give it a shot.

Charlie: Sure.

Glenn: I, I'm, I'm-- Hey listen man, I'm,

Charlie: We should try one where we tried crack, and then try a podcast. You know, that's, that's what we should be doing.

Rob: Right.

Charlie: We should have done some steroids for this one, and crack for the other one. We should have banged each other's mothers.

Rob: Wow. [unintelligible 00:39:17]

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You're right Charlie.

Charlie: You know, and, and I should have been like, "You know what's interesting about banging mothers?" Um--

Glenn: And then you would actually have something to talk about.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Like, like something concrete.

Charlie: Yeah. They're in their 70s, you know, some sort of thing like that.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Well guys, uh, this has been great, and uh, we'll see you on the other next one.



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