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16. The Gang Runs For Office

On the pod, the guys revisit The Gang Runs For Office from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia Season 2, Episode 8.

Glenn Howerton: Testes. Testes. One, two, three.

Rob McElhenney: It's, um-

Glenn: There it is.

Rob: It's almost time, it's nine o'clock.

Glenn: It just clicked over. It's nine o'clock. It's 9:00 AM. It is 9:00 AM, isn't it?

Rob: And that-- What-- did we agree on a time today?

Glenn: Yeah. I believe we said 9:00 AM. Megan, did we say 9:00 AM?

Megan Ganz: We did say nine.

Rob: We did say nine.

Glenn: Megan said--

Rob: And I'm here, I'm sitting in my chair.

Glenn: Yeah, I've got a chair, uh, I'm occupying my chair.

Rob: Yeah, and yet this chair is uh-- This chair's empty.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Um, well, now this is the first edition of the video podcast.

Glenn: Yeah, this is exciting. Uh, this room is, uh, awful.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, we're gonna have to--

Rob: And it's a little bare and it's a little characterless, although I'm noticing in your shot, Glenn, you see my giant belly. That's kind of cool.

Glenn: Your giant belly?

Rob: No, no. Behind you.

Glenn: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I thought you meant like the one that you're sporting now.

Rob: No, no, no.

Glenn: Look at you flexing. Flexing.

Rob: Well, that's under the table. It's under the table. No, it's flexing.

Glenn: Is this-- You know, I was thinking about that. Well, first of all, I wanna say that one of the things I find very funny about this is like, we're no longer allowed to talk to each other.

Rob: Right.

Glenn: Because every time I start to tell you something-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -you're like, "Save it for the podcast. Save it for the podcast."

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Um, now, is that because, uh, uh, we think we're that interesting?

Rob: No, no. I think it's that we're afraid we're gonna run out of things to talk about.

Glenn: Oh, yeah. No, you're absolutely right.

Rob: So this would be--yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. So just anything, anything. Just talk about anything.

Rob: Yeah, for example, Charlie not being here.

Glenn: A missing man. A missing man is actually very interesting.

Rob: Yes. Now, I am concerned, um, I am concerned for how interesting the podcast is gonna be without Charlie. If you think about the show itself, if we didn't have Charlie-- Now, don't tell him this. Well, he already knows.

Glenn: He knows, but he-- yeah. But that's the thing, he's-- he doesn't need that because he already knows that, that's a whole thing.

Rob: Without Charlie, the show doesn't really work. You know what I mean?

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Probably wouldn't have gotten to season 15 without Charlie, makes me think we should wait on the podcast, but no.

Glenn: No, no, no. We-- This is the tradition, if you don't show up on time, you- you- you lose.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: You lose. So here we go.

Rob: You snooze, you lose.

Glenn: Now, let's get into it, Rob, um, I'm seeing a cane.

Rob: Glenn, I was--

Glenn: Is that a cane?

Rob: Yes, this is a cane, for old Robbie.

Glenn: Qualifies a cane?

Rob: Yep.

Glenn: Okay.

Rob: Now, this is my first day off, uh, crutches.

Glenn: Uh-huh.

Rob: And, uh, I got my- myself in a shoe instead of a boot. I- I tore some ligaments in- in my foot, um, but I was- I was so adamant on being on time for this podcast. I was supposed to get a ride here and I was supposed to get picked up and, um, the-- now the-the-the person who was driving me was coming from the same area of town that Charlie is, so I think there's some pretty bad traffic, but that's no excuse because traffic in LA, how novel.

Glenn: That's a given.

Rob: It's a given.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: So he wasn't getting there on time. I texted him. I said, "Where are you? Where are you? Where are you?" "I'll get there. I'll get there." I said, "I can't risk being late for this podcast." Charlie actually texted us and said-

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: "Hey, I might be a little bit late."

Glenn: And you said that won't matter.

Rob: That won't matter.

Glenn: That won't matter.

Rob: I said, "This text won't matter."

Glenn: This text won't matter.

Rob: But then after I sent it, I was still sitting in my driveway waiting for my ride, and then I thought, "Oh, shit, now I've thrown a gauntlet down."

Glenn: That's right.

Rob: And now I-- my foot that's all fucked up is my right foot.

Glenn: That's right. It's your driving foot.

Rob: It's my driving foot.

Glenn: Yeah, that's everyone's driving foot.

Rob: Well, yes, it is.


Oh, yeah, so unless you--


Glenn: I hope.

Rob: Well, unless you're driving on manual, it's both, I guess.

Glenn: If you're driving what?

Rob: Oh, if you drive a manual, then it's, uh, both feet. Is it not? Yeah you gotta use the–

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's right. That's right.

Rob: So, uh, either way, your left foot is generally not your driving foot, to your point.

Glenn: Correct.

Rob: Um, but I thought I gotta- now I've thrown the gauntlet down, I gotta-- I just gotta get in the car and go.

Glenn: Yeah. Yeah.

Rob: And so I did and as I did, my ride was passing me by, like, literally we just pass each other and I locked eyes with him and he knew.


Glenn: When I picture you guys like just the-the-the, like, turn as you guys did--

Rob: He was driving so fast that like, he almost hit my- hit me and like- like weaved out of the way.

Glenn: Okay, so basically what we're learning today is you didn't wanna risk being late for the podcast so that- so that the same thing that we- we're doing to Charlie right now wouldn't happen to you.

Rob: Yes.

Glenn: But you were willing to risk your life and Brian's- Brian's life-

Rob: Mm-hmm and my foot.

Glenn: -to get here on time?

Rob: Yes. There was no way that I was gonna be late for this podcast.

Glenn: Yeah. Well--

Rob: Here we are. This is the video portion.

Glenn: You know, it's, it- it is, it is-- like, it's like, when someone has been late and I haven't been late yet, which is crazy.

Rob: That is crazy.

Glenn: 'Cause I traditionally have- used to be, always be, of all of us, the latest.

Rob: I know.

Glenn: Um, but now we're six minutes in and we gotta start talking about the episode, I think.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Unless you got some other shit to talk about.

Rob: I-- Well, you know what I think we should talk about?

Glenn: What?

Rob: Is this office? When this is the video-- This is- is this our set? This is a piece of shit.

Glenn: Yeah, we can't do this. We- we- we can't do this, uh, we're- we're gonna step it up, guys. This is a--

Rob: What is this behind me? Oh, well, there's Meg though. Everybody can see Meg.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Oh, no. She hid.

Glenn: Oh, she hid? Come on Megan.

Rob: Well, she finally has a microphone, by the way.

Glenn: Oh, yes. I see. I didn't see that before. Okay, that's good.

Rob: We've been-- Now- now to be clear listener--

Glenn: Is it on or off?

Rob: -if everybody assumes that our, um, our goal in this podcast was to silence women by not giving them a microphone, you are sorely mistaken. We have been begging Meg to get on mic from day one-

Glenn: That's right.

Rob: -and all you can hear is her laughter in the background. Now, we feed off of her laugh- laughter.

Glenn: That's true.

Rob: I might live for it at this point. But now we can actually see, well, sort of, she's sneaking behind the camera, but anyway, that's Meg. That's Meg Ganz.

Glenn: Can I ask you a question? So, when I realized that we were filming this one-- Well, not when I realized it, but when I really thought about it, the reality of it, I was like, "Oh, shit," like now I have to like worry about my hair.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: You know, I gotta make sure I get enough sleep, 'cause we don't have like hair and makeup, you know what I mean? It's not like a TV show where you have hair and makeup, although maybe we should.

Rob: Well, we should consider it. We should consider it.

Glenn: We should consider it.

Rob: By the way people watch podcasts.

Glenn: Yeah, that's right. That's why we're doing this.

Rob: Yeah. News to me.

Glenn: That's why we're doing this. Um, well, uh, listener, watcher, um, we apologize for our faces, uh, well, actually, sorry, I apologize for my face. Rob maybe feels good about his face.

Rob: I do.

Glenn: I- I think the problem is for me, and we talked about this also on the podcast, is like, even though you guys don't see me this way, like I feel like my eyes are-- The thing is- is like I-- whenever I post anything on Instagram, right?

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: There's inevitably like a handful of people that are always like, "Whoa, you look stoned, man," and I'm like, "No, God, that's just my face. That's just my eyes," like, I just have tired looking eyes all the time and people are like, "Oh dude, you must be stoned all the time," and I'm- I'm not. I'm not. That's just how my eyes look.

Rob: Well, I'm looking at you now and-

Glenn: They're not too bad.

Rob: -no, they're not too bad. I can- I can see what you're-- Yeah, I guess, but I wouldn't have thought-- Oh.

Glenn: Oh.

Charlie Day: Here's your fucking water.

Rob : Thanks, pal. Okay. Well, well, well. Well, well, well.

Glenn: There he is.

Charlie: This is out of control. This is out of control.

Rob: He just sort of strolls in whenever he feels like it.

Glenn: Oh.

Charlie: It took me an hour from my kid's school to get here.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Unreasonable.

Rob: Unreasonable.

Charlie: Unreasonable.

Glenn: Unreasonable.

Rob: It's life, it's Los Angeles.

Charlie: Take a look around this office, this is the last time I'm here. We'll find a new spot.

Rob: That's fair.

Charlie: We'll find a new spot.


Glenn: Do you want to express your feelings right now on the podcast?

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: On camera?

Charlie: It's not so much about the traffic that I'm upset with. It's- it's knowing [laughs] the joy that you guys are gonna get out of beating me here.

Glenn: Well, we talked--

Rob: On the first video portion of the podcast, there was an empty chair just sitting there.

Charlie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, it's kind of great though.

Charlie: Yeah, yeah. Sure, fine.

Glenn: It's kind of great. No, but I- we're the same way. Both of us risked our lives to get here on time today. Basically like, I didn't-- Rob was talking about how, you know, Brian was supposed to pick him up and because of his ankle, he's not supposed to be driving on that thing.

Rob: My foot, I have torn ligaments in my foot.

Glenn: But Brian was running late, so he took a risk and decided to drive with a busted ankle.

Rob: Well, now we're rehashing stories that the audience has already heard [laughing].

Glenn: By the way, can I-- speaking of rehashing stories, I got--

Charlie: Probably pretty boring stories without me here, right? I would imagine pretty boring talking about your ankles and stuff.

Glenn: Definitely better with you here.

Rob: We- we discussed that.

Glenn: We did discuss that.

Rob: We discussed that.

Charlie: you discussed like your--

Glenn: The fact that it wasn't gonna be as good without you.

Charlie: Yeah, well.

Glenn: Uh, and we also discussed not saying it to you because you would react that way.

Rob: Exactly.

Glenn: And we did it anyway, damnit.

Rob: [laughs] No, what we said was, "Well, he knows that already, so we don't need to rehash it," and then he brought it up himself.

Glenn: And then here we go.

Charlie: Well, I would feel the same about either one of you. It's not a-- and it's not just a me thing, it's the-the chemistry of the three of us.

Glenn: It's the dynamic baby.

Charlie: But I was driving over here being like, "If I quit- if I quit the podcast [laughs] you know if they were like, "No, we're working in this office no matter what."

Glenn: Yeah, we'd keep going.

Charlie: You'd still have to pay me.

Glenn: We'd fit.

Charlie: You would. Yeah, it'd be a whole sticky legal thing for you.

Glenn: It’d get ugly.

Charlie: It would just-- it- it would just make more sense to just pay me.

Glenn: It would get ugly.

Rob: You know what, and it wouldn't be as much fun.

Charlie: It would not be as much fun.

Glenn: It definitely wouldn't be as much fun.

Charlie: Jiggly-ass chair. Look at this shit.

Glenn: Yeah, pretty jiggly.

Rob: This is a janky office in a janky part of town.

Charlie: Rob, Apple has money, get a good office.

Glenn: We're in the Mythic Quest offices right now um. And, uh--

Rob: Again, I think that maybe- maybe this is interesting for the viewer now and also the listener, that people think that like production offices or writer's offices are nice and they're not, they're pieces of shit.

Glenn: Some of them are.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Some of them, well-- You know, like, the-the-the long-running shows, uh, the super long-running shows, like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia usually have like a set office that's like super decorated and stuff like that. We never do that. We just go from office to office and it doesn't usually looks like this, but I feel like it's appropriate for the writing of our show.

Rob: Yes.

Glenn: Uh, of Sunny.

Glenn: But I do enjoy, like, for example, somebody at one point had this wall painted, right-

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: -and then-and then each production came. It was probably some company that, you know, did marketing or something.

Charlie: Why did they do that?

Rob: I don't know.

Charlie: What was the inspiration behind that? That's awful.

Glenn: It was probably like a candle company or something. Don't you think? Like-

Charlie: Oh, yeah-yeah.

Glenn: -or incense or something?

Charlie: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Glenn: Can-can I just bring something up? Also, like, because-- But you were talking about rehashing old stories. Now, I've gotten some feedback from a few people- from a lot of people on my socials. And then very specific feedback from Heath Cullen's wife, Emma who also has a podcast and is, uh- and a very intelligent woman. Rob, her one note was--

Rob: Was it for me?

Glenn: She said-- Well-well, it was-

Rob: That's nice.

Glenn: It was, you know, you guys--

Charlie: Don't eat the microphone.

Glenn: You guys--

Rob; [laughs]

Glenn: You guys-- No. it was--

Charlie: He got rid of the pop cart. He's gonna, uh-- He's gonna fully--

Glenn: He's definitely gonna suck it at some point.

Charlie: He's gonna gag on that thing.

Glenn: He's gonna gag.


Charlie: I don't want the cameras. I know it's good for the podcast, but, ah--

Glenn: I know. I know.

Charlie: I just like--

Glenn: I know. I don't either. We'll get used to it.

Rob: Makes you a little bit more self-conscious.

Charlie: I feel more exposed.

Glenn: We'll forget- we'll forget like the--

Charlie: I feel more exposed.

Glenn: Maybe we'll get used to it.

Rob: Is there a three-shot, Meg? Oh, there is a three-shot. Yeah, probably.

Charlie: Anyway, uh, Emma's note was?

Glenn: Sorry. Emma's note was-

Rob: It was for me.

Glenn: -um, you know, every time we go to tell a story that-that Rob has heard-

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: -he points out, "I've heard this story."

Rob: Yes.

Glenn: And when we haven't put it in the podcast, it's our response to that which is, "These stories aren't for you, Rob."

Rob: No.

Glenn: "They're for the listener who's never heard the fucking stories."

Rob: Okay, Emma, uh--

Charlie: Yeah, but-but--

Rob: Okay, Emma, let me point something out-

Glenn: And she's like-

Rob: -to you.

Glenn: And she's like, "Why is Rob constantly pointing out the--

Charlie: Because it's hilarious that we don't remember them-

Rob: That's the point of it.

Charlie: -which is totally true.

Rob: To me--

Glenn: It's not.

Charlie: By the way, there--

Rob: Okay.

Charlie: There was- there was an email this morning that you remembered-- God bless your brain, man. I-I want a little bit of whatever you got going on there.

Rob: That shit drove me crazy when I read that last night.

Glenn: Well-well-- And what--

Charlie: Well, there was an email from our manager about someone who wanted to write something about the show.

Glenn: Oh.

Charlie: And he was like, "Does this person have, uh, permission to legally write this? I think it was a book.

Rob: Because FX wants to ask them about it because that's--

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: That was the email sent because FX wants to go and ask them and-and go after them.

Charlie: And I saw the email, read the link, I was like, "Ahh, I never heard of this thing." You felt the same way. And Rob was like, "You guys, not only have you all heard it, there was an email about it before." And once you said that [laughs]-- You were absolutely right, man.

Rob: Did you go back? I don't know if you guys went back and looked for it. But I saw that change.

Charlie: No, I didn't care, I said Rob remembers.

Rob: What do you know?

Charlie: That means it's a fact.

Rob: The point- the point is this. The point is this. I recognized that the stories are for the listener.

Glenn: Okay.

Rob: But you-- But the way that you're telling- oftentimes you're telling the stories--

Glenn: Yes, because we know how to present the story. And the story is like, "Oh, you guys, I gotta tell you this, right? Not like--

Charlie: Not me. I straight up don't remember.

Glenn: You guys- you guys already know this. Uh, let tell talk.

Charlie: I have no recollection.

Glenn: We're talking to each other. We're talking to each other in the podcast, you fucking--

Rob: I recognize that. But the thing that I find amazing is that you are hearing it for the first time in the moment.

Glenn: You know what an actor does?


Glenn: He pretends that-

Rob: We're not acting.

Glenn: -he's hearing something for the first time.

Rob: We're not acting. This is real life.

Megan: [laughs]

Glenn: Do you think this isn't a performance?

Rob: Part of the--


Glenn: To buddy?

Rob: Listening back to them, sometimes, it is a performance for you sometimes. Sometimes, it's real life. And sometimes-

Glenn: If that camera's rolling--

Rob: -it's you're on--

Glenn: -and that mic is hot-

Megan: [laughs]

Glenn: I'm performing.

Rob: [laughs]

Glenn: Okay, just know this. Know this.

Charlie: The thing I don't like about the camera is I feel like Spielberg is gonna be too shy to pop in 'cause of the cameras.

Glenn: No.

Charlie: Some of our callers aren't gonna call in-

Glenn: Oh, I see.

Charlie: -you know.

Rob: Well, I don't know. Maybe.

Charlie: I don't know. We can always cut to black when he walks in-

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: -just to--

Rob: Well, 'cause, you know what? He doesn't- he doesn't feel comfortable being recorded.

Glenn: Is that true?

Charlie: He likes being behind the camera.

Glenn: Well, clearly.

Charlie: Not so much in front of the camera.

Rob: So, if he walks in, we cut to black-

Glenn: Mm.

Rob: -right, we'll hear his voice.

Charlie: We'll figure it out.

Rob: We'll figure it out.

Charlie: We'll figure it out.

Glenn: I definitely-

Charlie: Creative guys and gal.

Glenn: -don't wanna lose him, 'cause he's-- he-he works around here and he likes swinging by every once in a while. And I definitely don't want him to feel uncomfortable swinging by, because-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -he's Steven Spielberg that you want to have him on the show.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: It’s amazing.

Rob: Yes. He wants to come on the show, but we gotta-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -make sure the door's open for him.

Glenn: Same-same thing with-- uh, with Brad Pitt. You know what I mean? He's gonna walk into the podcast, 'cause he has an open in-invitation to join the pod-

Rob: Sure.

Glenn: -anytime he wants. And, uh, we don't want him feeling like, "Oh I'm not in full hair and makeup. My--

Rob: Right.

Glenn: "I haven't frosted my tips." Or whatever he's doing with his hair this week, you know. By the way, can we talk about this? Why is it I can see pictures of Brad Pitt with super short hair, right? And then the next week he can have long hair and a ponytail?

Megan: [laughs]

Charlie: It might--

Glenn: What's going on?

Charlie: It might be--

Rob: Pictures can be taken at different times.

Charlie: It might be-- Yeah, there's a thing about pictures.


Glenn: No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. I brought this up.

Charlie: No, I saw his pictures.

Rob: Is he holding a newspaper up with the date on it?

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Buddy-buddy, how long do you think it would take you to grow your hair to the point where you could have a-a real ponytail? Not a little nubbin, but an actual ponytail?

Rob: Am I Brad Pitt?

Charlie: 35 seconds [laughs].

Glenn: In this scenario, you are.

Rob: Look, the man could do anything.

Charlie: Yeah.


Glenn: You're saying Brad Pitt is so awesome that he can grow his hair at a rate?

Rob: Has he ever let you down?

Charlie: If anyone could.

Rob: [laughs]

Charlie: If anyone could. Come on.

Glenn: Brad Pitt.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Uh, well, shoot.

Charlie: Also-

Glenn: I dunno if I should tell this.

Charlie: -are those pictures from a movie? Like, you know, like maybe one is him out at lunch and then he's doing a movie where he has long hair so they have like an extension in or whatever-

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: -like, you know? You don't know about these photos.

Glenn: Somebody did, uh-- Somebody told me once that he was on a red carpet with Brad Pitt where he had a ponytail and the ponytail fell off.

Megan: [laughs]

Rob: Get outta here.

Charlie: That's a lie.

Rob: No way.

Glenn: This was somebody who was actually there.

Rob: You’re trying to take Brad down a peg and I won't have it.

Charlie: It's like he takes his hat off, it's got the Rasta dreads-


-you know, like, uh, sewn into the back.

Rob: Come on, Glenn, turn that around. You're the one asking about it. There you go.

Glenn: Sorry.

Rob: We're on camera now.

Charlie: What is that?

Glenn: [sighs] It's just-just coffee. It's cold brew. I-I like cold brew.

Rob: It looks green.

Charlie: It looks green.

Glenn: Does it look green?

Charlie: Oh, yeah. Hold it up to the camera.

Glenn: Oh, you know what? God, you guys, my kids sometimes use these glasses and they put their like- they put their paints in it and stuff.

Megan: [laughs]

Glenn: Oh shit.


Charlie: That's very un-you. I-I--

Rob: That's the, what?

Glenn: Do you think that might be it?

Megan: [laughs]

Rob: Well, it's green.

Glenn: Well, we wash them. We wash them. They're kid-safe paints.

Charlie: You're fine. You're fine.

Glenn: All right.

Rob: You're fine. It's just interesting.

Charlie: Live on the edge for once.

Glenn: Mm.

Charlie: Um--

Glenn: I mean, your character drinks paint all the time.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: But that's a character.

Rob: And it's not really paint.

Glenn: And it's-- And he'd be dead if he were a real person.

Charlie: I don't know.

Glenn: Should we talk about the episode, The Gang Runs For Office?

Rob: I'm excited Charlie's here, though. I think the podcast is-is better with Charlie.

Glenn: I think it's fine that he's here. I'd say it's fine.

Rob: I'd say it's definitely better.

Charlie: All right.

Glenn: We love you pal. I love you.

Charlie: [laughs]

Glenn: I love you.

Rob: Now, you--

Charlie: I love you too.

Rob: Now, you-you definitely flinched. You did not like that.

Charlie: Yeah, I didn't want you to do that.


It wasn't- it wasn't like--

Glenn: No, you-you--

Charlie: It was passive-aggressive.

Rob: No, that's not true.

Charlie: Yes, it was. It was a bit.It was a bit. That wasn't even genuine.

Rob: I can feel-

Glenn: It was a combination.

Rob: -the tenseness in your arm. He doesn't like to be touched.

Glenn: He doesn't.

Rob: He does not like to be touched.

Glenn: It-it was a combination of a bit.

Charlie: I don't trust people [laughs].

Glenn: Okay-okay. All right, cool.

Charlie: Well, you know--

Rob: Let's get into that.

Charlie: Where's that hand gonna go [laughs]?

Glenn: Where's that hand headed?

Charlie: You're gonna try to give me a noogie?

Glenn: Oh, no.

Charlie: Good luck man.

Glenn: Good luck, bro.

Charlie: I don't do that.

Glenn: I don't take that shit anymore.

Charlie: Go ahead and try.


Rob: Cut that. Cut that. Cut that. Cut that. Cut that.

Glenn: Now, can we talk about the episode? Or do you wanna--

Rob: Well, yes.

Charlie: Do you wanna keep stalling? Should we do--

Rob: Well, okay, yeah. Can I admit- can I admit something to you?

Glenn: Oh, God. Yeah, go ahead.

Charlie: You didn't watch it.

Rob: I don't wanna make this about me. Um, but, uh-- but I, um-- So, here's the thing.

Charlie: You forgot to watch it.

Rob: I-I-- No, I didn't forget.

Glenn: Mm.

Rob: I didn't forget. I, um-- I, uh-- And I'm gonna take full responsibility, 'cause I thought maybe I could just lie-

Glenn: Mm.

Rob: -and just pretend-

Glenn: Oh, boy.

Rob: -and just go along with it. But then I thought, "Man, I gave Charlie so much shit for being late." And I knew I was going to.

Charlie: Mm-hmm.

Rob: And we did. And, um--

Glenn: [laughs]

Rob: And, now, I feel really guilty. And I'm just gonna be dead honest with you, I didn't watch the episode. And it's not because I didn't want to, but I have a million reasons. But they're just gonna sound like excuses.

Glenn: It’s not even that you didn’t–

Charlie: This kinda blows this whole thing, man. Like why did I drive through an hour of traffic if, uh, to talk about, uh, you know-- I guess we'll talk about other stuff? Or maybe Glenn and I can refresh your memory.

Rob: Well--

Charlie: You have perfect memory, anyway. You know, you'd probably remember every aspect of it anyway.

Glenn: But there's no--

Rob: Why-why don't we call Emma? Why don't we have Emma come, uh, Emma come talk to us? Maybe she could give us some- give me some notes on how I should approach the-the podcast. Sorry Emma.

Glenn: Well, what she doesn't want you doing is, uh, like, when somebody starts to tell an interesting story basically shutting them down.

Rob: Yes and…You're saying--

Glenn: Yes, and not--

Rob: Instead of--

Glenn: Not-- No, why?


You know, the old improv thing is yeah. It's yes and not no. Why are you--


Charlie: Not-not on our show.


Our show is not a yes and show.

Glenn: That is true.

Charlie: It's a no. Fuck you.


Glenn: That is true.

Charlie: Yeah. Well-well--

Rob: I actually remember Charlie very early on, maybe season one, um, I've-I've never taken an improv class. And I remember, like, trying to keep up with the improv. And for some reason, my instinct would be-- Like, season one, Charlie would say something really funny and I'd be like, "No, you didn't really do that." Or, "No, that didn't really happen, or whatever." And I remember you pulling me aside and being like, "Hey, man, just like FYI. Like you kind of gotta go with it, 'cause if-if you say no, then like the scene stops."

Glenn: Right.

Rob: I was like, "Oh fuck, he's right again."

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: All right, I'm gonna start- I'm gonna start doing that. And apparently, that's like a basic tenet of--

Glenn: Yes and--

Rob: Yes and…Of course.


Charlie: I have no recollection of that. No recollection of that.

Glenn: Actually, a lot of people maybe don't know this.

Rob: So, what is it?

Charlie: [laughs]

Glenn: What?

Charlie: I said of course. Of course. I don't remember that at all.

Glenn: um, but, no. A lot- a lot of people don't know this. But, like, that is the-- that is like I think-- And I never took an improv class either. But, like, I think that is the number one rule in improv is that you're supposed to, you know, take whatever-- 'Cause improv, you know, you don't know what the other person's gonna say. Like, uh--

Rob: The second you stop and say no, the whole thing ends.

Glenn: Right. So, you gotta say yes and-and build. So, the idea is to build upon what the other person's imagination is.

Charlie: Speaking of, that's- there's a good segue actually into this episode that we should talk about. And I think probably-- It's a really funny episode. There's a ton of funny stuff.

Glenn: I really enjoyed it.

Charlie: There's some stuff that we didn't continue doing. Like, where we stayed with the union guys. And they're like-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -y-you know, [clears throat] they call us nerds, or we kind of end with the cops being somewhat heightened, you know-

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: -where they, like, look into the camera and they say like, "That's politics bitch." That happens.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: But, um, the improv that Glenn is doing where he's reading my speech, uh, I don't know if you recall this. But the-the props guy, whoever it was, I-I don't remember who it was that season. But-- And it might not have been the head props person. It might have just been like the props guy's assistant, wrote just something on a piece of paper, like a bad speech. The-the joke was that you just couldn't read it. It didn't make sense. There was no actual reading of it that we scripted. And it's so damn funny what he wrote and your reaction to it, that it's a good example of yes and where it's like, "I don't know, you just have to be looking for those moments and then just run with them, right?"

Glenn: Well, 'cause it wasn't, uh-- it wasn't scripted. I believe, as scripted, it was you saying just read the speech I wrote and me saying I'm not gonna- I'm not gonna read the speech.

Rob: Yes.

Glenn: And then the scene, I think, just ended with that.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Like, I'm not doing it.

Charlie: Yes, something like that.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: I'm not reading this. It doesn't make any sense. And then I think we just did one where it was like-- And, basically, I mean, a lot of the words that I say were written on that piece of paper. It's just that it was- it was a more coherent speech. It was a bad speech, but it was coherent and I made it as incoherent as possible. It's weird though that-

Charlie: Uh-huh.

Glenn: -that people find that so funny because I don't ever-- I've never found that funny. I-I-I've never really understood why.

Charlie: It's not the words so much as your reaction to them. Like--

Rob: Yes.

Charlie: Like the fact that you're reading, you can't believe that you're reading such bad [laughs]-- bad writing.

Rob: I just remember very distinctly, uh, the-the speech ending with “And so do.”

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: Is that the final line?

Glenn: Yes.

Charlie: But there's no and it's just “So do.”

Rob: “So do.”

Glenn: Oh, yeah.

Charlie: I thought it was and so do as well. But I think-

Glenn: So did I.

Charlie: -maybe the blooper is and so do.

Rob: Eh, well.

Glenn: Oh, oh.

Charlie: And what's in that, Glenn?

Rob: I also remember being behind the monitors for that, and Charlie is laughing hysterically.

Glenn: Oh, yeah.

Charlie: He's laughing in the-in the episode, 'cause we didn't have any other options [laughs].

Rob: We didn't have any other option. It had to go in.

Charlie: Sometimes-- Look, sometimes I laugh.

Rob: Well, Glenn, we've established that you are host of the show. Could you--

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: What-what should we do next?

Glenn: Um, well, uh-- So-so here-- This is a little awkward or maybe it isn't. I don't know. I-I always write notes on my phone when I watch the episode, right? Like, if I have questions I wanna ask you guys or things I wanna talk about or whatever, it looks like I'm just looking at my phone in the-in the video. But, uh, you know, just know, uh, listener, watcher-watcher, you fucking creep, uh, that when I'm looking at my phone--

Rob: That's great. That's great.

Charlie: [laughs]

Rob: Just insulted half the audience.

Glenn: Insulted--

Rob: Apparently, half the audience watches the podcast.

Glenn: Okay.

Rob: And you've just called them all creeps.

Glenn: I did have a question for you guys.

Charlie: Mm.

Glenn: Did you guys have, uh, Garbage Pail Kids when you were-

Rob: Yes.

Glenn: -when you were kids?

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Did you have them?

Charlie: There-there was one specific kid who turned me onto them. And he had-- And he lived like alone with his dad. And his dad was a fisherman. So, he was on the water all the time. So, basically, this kid was just like on his own.

Glenn: He's just with his Garbage Pail Kids.

Charlie: Yeah. And-and he had a bunch of really good shit, 'cause, like, you know, I think it was one of those situations where like the dad feels bad that, like, he's just never there and the mom's not in the picture. So, he is just like, "Here's like that, like, red one and the robot-robot." He had that robot.

Glenn: Oh, he had friends. Those were his friends.

Charlie: [laughs]

Glenn: The Garbage Pail Kids and the robot were his friends.

Charlie: Yeah-yeah.

Glenn: Oh.

Charlie: And he had Garbage Pail Kids. And he turned me onto the Garbage Pail Kids. And I was like these are the greatest thing ever. For like a month.

Glenn: Yes.

Charlie: And then you're like, "Yeah, I'm over them. The gum's real dry."

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: You know.

Glenn: Was there gum? I never had any. I had friends who had them, but I never got them myself. But I did enjoy them.

Charlie: If you open the package, it's like a real dry, sometimes flaky gum falls apart.

Glenn: Mmm.

Rob: Like in the baseball card?

Charlie: Yeah, like the baseball card.

Rob: Yeah. I was definitely into them. I loved- I loved them.

Glenn: Did you have a collection of them?

Rob: I think we were all- we were all in the sweet spot. Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, we were in the sweet spot. Weren't we?

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: I know--

Rob: I collected baseball cards too.

Glenn: Oh, you did?

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Did you ever get any good ones?

Rob: Yeah. But then, you know, th-th-that was some bullshit.

Glenn: Hmm.

Rob: Like where you'd get the magazine and it would tell you how much each card was worth.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: And then you'd be like, "All right, I got the Ken-- you know, Ken Griffey rookie card. And I'm gonna--

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: And it says it's worth 20 bucks. I'm gonna go to the store [clears throat] and they're gonna gimme 20 bucks for it, 'cause it says- it says that's what it's worth in the book.

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: And then you'd go to the comic books store and they'd be like, "Ah, I'd give you-- um, I'd give you 50 cents.

Glenn: You know, that's what we sell it for.

Rob: Yeah. That's what we sell it for.

Glenn: We give you pawn shop rates.

Rob: Right. And I honestly think that-that is what eventually like collapsed that entire market, 'cause people were like, "Well, fuck it, if you're not-- If you're selling it to me for that but you're not buying it back."

Glenn: Right.

Rob: And then that was it.

Charlie: I still think there is a--

Rob: Until-until recently when it came back.

Charlie: Did it come back?

Rob: Oh yeah, big time.

Charlie: I-I got myself Rickey Henderson rookie.

Rob: Nice.

Glenn: Whoo.

Charlie: Traded it.

Rob: Now--

Charlie: Carl traded it. My buddy Carl traded it to me for a couple-couple of things.

Rob: We-we discussed this before, but, um-- Sorry. I'm-

Charlie: Rickey was my favorite player. He was my favorite player. So--

Glenn: Yeah, that's--

Rob: I just said we discussed this before.

Glenn: No, but I know. But that's different.

Rob: It's acknowledging that we've discussed it before.

Glenn: Yeah. And, by the way, do your thing. All right- all right-

Rob: Rickey--

Glenn: -don't even worry about it.

Rob: Rickey Henderson-- Thanks for your permission, dad. Rickey permi--


Rickey Henderson-- Little known fact, Rickey Henderson, or maybe this is a widely known fact, I don't know. Speaks of himself in the third person.

Charlie: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: Mm.

Rob: So, Rickey does this and Rickey does that.

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Rickey doesn't do this.

Charlie: Mm-hmm.

Rob: Rickey does that. Rickey wants that. Rickey will be there. Rickey's here.

Glenn: What is that? Is that when you become so, like, famous, or popular or-or loved that you also start separating yourself from- or, like, separating your persona from the real you? And, so, you start referring to yourself in the third person?

Charlie: Yeah, when you have the stolen base record, you're like, "Normal things don't apply to me anymore. I gotta heighten this, you know."

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: So, Rickey-Rickey gonna start doing this and Rickey gonna start doing that. I used to have dreams that like I would be, like, at the park and, like, Rickey would show up and be like, "Hey, you wanna play catch?" I'd be like, "Yeah, man." I was really into him. I had a giant poster of him. He was my guy. Uh--

Glenn: I always hated baseball.

Charlie: I have a good baseball card story. Rob, are you gonna shut it down, or should I tell them?


Glenn: Rob, did you wanna shut it down, or are you gonna take the no?

Charlie: It's really-- Uh, it's really a stolen bike story.

Rob: [laughs]

Glenn: And, like- uh, like, most of my stories, not a good story. It's gonna fizzle out at a certain point. But-


-uh, my buddy Chris, I got a new- I got a new bike. It was, uh, a Redline and which was like a cool BMX bike. I put it together myself.

Glenn: That was the brand? Redline?

Charlie: Yeah, Redline. I built it.

Glenn: It wasn't like a Mongoose Redline?

Charlie: No, the brand was Redline. Yeah.

Glenn: I don't remember that. Okay.

Charlie: They were like-- I got it out of a BMX magazine. I, like, sent away for it. Like, I put all the ports- parts together and I built the thing, which I-I didn't build shit. But I built this.

Glenn: Did you have pegs on the back?

Charlie: Uh, I did. Yeah, I had some pegs on the back.

Glenn: Sweet.

Charlie: Of course. And, so, I'm-- uh, I'm at my buddy's house and with-- And one of my friends, Chris, he's like, "Hey, can I take your bike to the baseball card store?" I'm like, "Yeah, go ahead, man." Hops on my bike, goes to the baseball card store. Comes back, "Hey dude, bad news." Uh--

Glenn: Sad news.

Charlie: [laughs] "Somebody stole your bike." I was like [sighs]. He's like, "I think we saw them, and they were like right around the corner.” So, we-we got a machete-


-out of, like, his garage or my garage. I can't remember where we got the machete. But we got a machete. I got my machete and got-- I'm like, you know, 11, 12 on the back of like, uh, some other kid's bike on the pegs. Rode down to the baseball card store. You know, got off looking for the kids and got a little nervous that the cops would see me with a machete.

Glenn: Fuck ya.

Charlie: So, I bu-- I buried the machete in some leaves so I could find the kids. And then I don't know what the plan was.


Then go get the machete. But, uh, you know, nothing happened, man. I didn't get it. The bike is gone forever. Hey, if you stole a Redline bicycle in, um-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -on Broadway right outside the baseball card store in-

Glenn: Fess up.

Charlie: -in Newport, Rhode Island in, uh, probably like 1989, '88--

Glenn: Wow.

Rob: There's a machete waiting for you.

Charlie: There's a machete waiting for you, buddy.

Megan: [laughs]

Glenn: Yeah, that's right.

Charlie: I will hack you to bits.


Glenn: Have you guys gotten this comment on your social media where people are like, "Oh, the show's gotten too political. I used to love this show, but it got too political." Well, it's always been political, you know. It's not that we take a particular stance on anything. As a matter of fact, we try not to. We try to, kind of, skewer both sides of any argument. But the show's always dealt with politics. I mean, it's always, always, always. And, uh-- So, for those people who are like, "It's getting too political. It-it used to not be political." Well, this whole episode is about politics.

Rob: I-is this the episode where we say, uh, who am I gonna vote for Republican, blast them in the ass, or yeah it's all one big ass blast?

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah.

Charlie: That holds up. This still feels the same. Although, I don't think people feel the same. I think people are more dug or-or dug in. Oh boy, we could talk about politics. We could actually talk about politics.

Glenn: Hmm.

Charlie: [snores]

Glenn: [laughs]

Rob: There's other podcasts for that. There's other pod--

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Glenn, as host, um, what's next?

Glenn: Well, [laughs]--

Charlie: I also feel like the host should be, like, there's not, "You know, where's my water, Glenn?"

Megan: [laughs]

Charlie: Oh, well, uh--

Rob: Well, if the host doesn't bring you, you don't go to Kimmel and he presents water for you.

Charlie: I think Kimmel would be very embarrassed if there was no water for me.

Rob: That’s a–


He would be humiliated.

Glenn: But he wouldn't be the one to bring it.

Rob: Why don't you-- I brought my water. Well, actually, he brought my water.

Charlie: I brought your water, yeah.

Rob: There's only so many hands I had coming in [coughs]. I had to rely on you. I rely on other people.

Glenn: Yeah. I got a question for you actually, um-

Charlie: Yeah. Mm.

Glenn: -that I-- that occurred to me.

Charlie: Yes.

Glenn: So, there's this scene--Yes.

Charlie: Go.

Glenn: Um, there's a scene in the back office where, uh, you pull me in the back office-

Charlie: Uh-huh.

Glenn: -and you try to talk me into-- Do you know where I'm going with this?

Charlie: I liked this scene. I don't know where you're going with it.

Glenn: Okay-okay.

Charlie: But I liked it a lot.

Glenn: So, you- you're trying to talk me into firing Frank as the ca-- By the way, I-I do love in this episode also, let me point out that-that like how-how quick-- It's such a rapid. It's just rapid-fire betrayal. You know what I mean? Like, literally, people get-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -betrayed. Like there's like seven betrayals in--

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: In 20 minutes.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: It's-it's really-- It's real quite extraordinary. Um, but [lipsmack], uh, there's a-- you're trying to talk me into firing Frank as my campaign manager and-and hiring you as my campaign manager. And you went into this way of speaking in this rhythm and everything. And if I'm not mistaken, at the time, I remember you telling me that it was sort of inspired by-- It was like a- uh, not a direct imitation of, but inspired by, uh, Jack Lemmon's performance as Shelley "The Machine" Levene-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -in Glengarry Glen Ross.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Am I correct? Am I remembering that correctly?

Charlie: Yeah, like desperate. Like, "Come on man, I gotta eat. I gotta eat."

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: "You know, I'm older than you. Like, you know, I'm older."

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: He's got lots of little threats.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Sad little threats.

Glenn: Uh, by the way, for those of you who have not seen Glengarry Glen Ross, uh, I believe it came out in 1992. Amazing film. Um, great play but, like, they made a film and it's incredible.

Charlie: Uh, what other feedback did you get [coughs]?

Glenn: What do you mean? You know, just in general?

Charlie: Yeah. I don't read a lot. I-I-I am pretty good about not reading a lot of comments on the internet. Because this-

Glenn: I like- I like it.

Charlie: -I find that it's not healthy for me.

Glenn: I like-- I'm able to, uh, take the good and the bad. Um, I-I-I will say that probably if it was a preponderance of bad feedback, I probably would stop, but most of it's good. Um, so the occasional bad feedback I actually really enjoy. I think it's really- I think it's really funny. And sometimes I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right."

Charlie: Sure. So you can learn a little.

Glenn: I- I can learn a little bit from it. I-I don't mind-

Rob: Did- did you just think Emma was right?

Glenn: Yes.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: And-and I-


I did- I did.

Charlie: Half right. Half right.

Glenn: I understand–

Ron: But you- you, now, hold on a second. I gotta, uh, let's re-re- let's relitigate this for a second.

Charlie: There was one particular episode she's probably commenting on one. It did seem really interesting whatever I can’t, I think probably you're gonna say and-and you shut it down, but it was, it's funny.

Glenn: You were like, “You've told us this story. You've told us this.” And I did. I don't know why I didn't say this in the moment but I'm like, "It's not, I'm not telling you. I'm acting like I'm telling you."

Rob: Totally.

Megan: You did say-

Charlie: Thank you, Megan.

Megan: You did say, "These aren't for you."

Glenn: Oh I did.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: Okay. Well, I did say.

Rob: You know-

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: -you've already said that.

Glenn: Okay.

Rob: You’ve already done this very thing.

Charlie: Emma- Emma's- Emma's note is your note, Emma's note is your note-

Rob: Emma's note is your note.

Charlie: -is not a good note.

Glenn: It's, I mean it, yeah-

Rob: It's a good note.

Glenn: It is a good note.

Rob: I, it's not that I don't wanna hear the story again, I think it's fun to watch.

Glenn: I get it.

Rob: Yes.

Charlie: Not remember things.

Rob: The way- the way.

Charlie: Our brains deteriorate. So much in front of it.

Glenn: The way it is presented could be misconstrued as you saying you don't need to tell this story because I've heard it before.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: You know, the, it can be misconstrued that way. Although I agree. I don't think that is your intention. Um-

Charlie: Uh--

Glenn: Again, just to, but you know, an example of, uh, you know, Rob's tendency to not, yes and but to, no why.

Rob: Yep.

Glenn: No. Why?

Charlie: [laughs].

Glenn: Um, [laughs] uh, did you guys notice, did you get-- well, you didn't 'cause you didn't watch the episode but, Charlie did you notice that you still had the, uh, the Hitler's German Shepherd painting in your- in your apartment and then I-

Charlie: Oh no, I didn't pick up on that.

Glenn: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was- I thought that was kinda fun. When did we lose that? After season two? I think what happened was we took--

Rob: A lot of people were commenting, was it like distracting from the scene?

Glenn: No.

Charlie: We believe it was distracted.

Glenn: We- we were in the editing room and-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -it is in the background of every shot-

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Oh, Charlie got nuts, that's what it was.

Glenn: Like, it's so distracting-

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -this stupid German Shepherd painting. So we took it down, I think after season two or maybe three I think we-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: You know. But good on us for like remembering that when we did the, uh, what episode was that?

Charlie: And then we wrote us a whole thing for it in like-

Glenn: What episode?

Charlie: -season eight.

Glenn: I remember you're still, I'm- I'm-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -thinking of your story.

Charlie: “Killer Holocaust. Hitler’s painting? Ridiculous.”

Glenn: “Ridiculous.”

Rob [laughs].

Charlie: I- I do like episodes where I get to do some kind of heightened thing like this one, like the show in-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -Machine Levine or that or, uh, the one where I get smart, and I have the king.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: I don't know why.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: More of that. That's fun. But if it was that all the time, It’d get old.

Glenn: It'd be goofy.

Charlie: It'd get old.

Glenn: It'd be too goofy. But it- it is fun. It's-

Charlie: Every now and then.

Glenn: -it's-it's-it's a wei- it's, uh, yeah. It's a weird--

Rob: Yeah. We have an ability to make them all feel different. Which is cool. That's not like the same heightened character over and over and over and over.

Charlie: That's true. That's true.

Rob: That's cool.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Never know where it comes from, you know.

Glenn: Um, I-I- I've seen-

Charlie: Uh, I'm stretching, I'm stretching.

Glenn: So, in this episode, so we, uh, we talked about this before, but I can't remember if it made the podcast cut.

Rob: Okay.

Glenn: Okay. And that was that as I recall, the first scene we ever shot with Danny DeVito was you and Danny in the parking garage. You guys disagreed and said that it was something else. But I, but lemme throw this out there. I-I do remember that the first scene that Kaitlin ever shot with Danny was the scene right before they go into the comptroller's office to try and solicit a bribe.

Rob: Uh-huh.

Glenn: You know, using, uh, Dee- trying to, you know, solicit. And I think the first scene they ever shot together that Kaitlin Olson and Danny DeVito ever shot together was the scene where he's, you know, where she says she stuffed in, uh, she- she-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -she was like-

Rob: I think I might be worried about that.

Glenn: -stuffed in there like a jerk or whatever.

Charlie: That might be right.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah. That feels right.

Glenn: Yeah. And I-I-I--

Charlie: Would you mean that- that we shot that in a, hey, my brains working here.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: Uh, we shot that a LA Center studio.

Glenn: Correct.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: So, the-- I think the parking garage was the LA Center studios parking garage.

Glenn: Correct.

Charlie: So it is possible.

Glenn: I do-

Charlie: Oh, but so was probably the hospital-

Rob: It's-

Charlie: -that we shot.

Rob: Yeah. The hospital- the hospital set was-

Charlie: Which is the scene that Rob and I think is the hospital?

Rob: That's in the hospital, that's in the lobby-

Glenn: Which one of the-

Rob: -of the LA Center studios so-

Glenn: Oh.

Rob: -like they were two or three. And we also reshot that scene.

Glenn: Mmm.

Charlie: We did.

Glenn: Yes, we did.

Charlie: We did.

Glenn: Yes. The scene that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Charlie: One of the few things we've reshot. We've reshot a couple of things, but it's rare.

Rob: Yeah. We thought that was an important one.

Glenn: Oh, shit. Right. That was the one that you said was-- Yeah, I don't know. Maybe. But I do, arg-- Here's what, here's why I think the parking garage scene was the first one. And if it wasn't the first scene it was one of the first scenes we ever shot with Danny. Is the, is because I distinctly remember filming that scene and not being in the scene and being behind the, you know, the monitors and thinking that I had a note to give to Danny and thinking I feel like this, you know, I'm this like, kid in his 20s like giving film-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -legend Danny DeVito a note.

Charlie: Yeah. I don't give him a note.

Glenn: How do you give film Legend Danny DeVito a note? Like, and I didn't know him that well, at that point, you know. At that point, he was just like the weird guy who told the teeth and you know.

Charlie: And it's funny like you-

Glenn: Teeth and watch his story.

Charlie: He's both super open to a note or whatever-

Glenn: Totally.

Charlie: -but depending on who from.

Glenn: Well, that's the thing-

Charlie: Like he likes a note from the three of us, he's fine and he's like-

Glenn: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: "Yeah, whatever. I'll try this, try that." But sometimes the guy's director tries to get Danny a note and it's like-

Glenn: Oh.

Charlie: "No."

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Uh, which is fair.

Glenn: It's a test. He's got to know that-that-that what you're gonna give him is gonna make it better or have the potential to make it better. Like and he's now learned after years of working with us that you know, it usually, it's a good note, it's worth trying.

Charlie: I remember, um, FX not loving this episode.

Rob: Hmm.

Charlie: I remember a spe-

Glenn: Really?

Charlie: Yeah. I remember a specific feedback, which they were like, you know, "It's, it's good enough obviously, we're not gonna like not air it, but we don't-we don't love this direction for the show." I don't rem- remember specifically why.

Glenn: Huh.

Charlie: But I do remember that.

Rob: Hmm.

Charlie: Uh, but, you know, uh-

Glenn: Maybe-maybe, because it's- it's very sort of plot-driven. It's not-it's not, I mean, it-it reveals character, right? 'Cause, it reveals like, you know, you're- you're like my vanity, you know, [laughs] I do love–

Charlie: Or maybe-

Glenn: –I do love it.

Charlie: Or maybe it’s the same thing we picked up on what you eventually we were like, it doesn't quite feel right to stay with-with the ancillary characters-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -and-

Glenn: Yeah,

Charlie: Maybe it was that, who knows?

Glenn: We were still finding it.

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: I mean-

Rob: I think it meant, it probably just felt sillier in some way too-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -'cause like, instead-

Glenn: Yeah. It was.

Rob: -of the world being crazy, we were presenting characters that were-that were right? Extreme and the world was, we were kinda stuck in the normal world. And then once you start building that kind of stuff out, then it'd be- then it's seems like the world is-

Charlie: Then the whole world is crazy.

Rob: -is crazy-

Charlie: Yeah. It becomes too crazy.

Rob: And it seems like some Looney toons.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Right.

Ron: But then in season three, which we'll get to we got bonkers. But even-

Glenn: Oh, yeah, we went-

Rob: -then the characters were the ones that were bonkers-

Charlie: Yeah.

Rob: -not the-

Glenn: Yeah.

Rob: -not the outside world.

Glenn: Everyone a little naughty nonsense in sea- in season three, but, uh-

Rob: We will cover that.

Glenn: -it was a lot of fun. But, I-I-I-I [chuckle], I do say, like I didn't really enjoy, um, one thing that I think we do continue to do, which I love, is we go very quickly from like, "Ooh, we should, and one of us should run for office to solicit a bribe." Very quickly to like, "Oh, no, I think I could actually win this."

Rob: [laughs].

Glenn: To-to very quickly, you know, starting to betray each other but, more [chuckles], more interestingly enough, like focusing on totally the wrong things. You know what I mean? You-you- it becomes very much-

Charlie: Who's gonna get to use the clipboard?

Glenn: Who gets to use the clipboard? Like-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -you know what I mean? Like you being like, I'm the campaign manager, I get the clipboard. You being like, "Give me the clipboard, and then--"

Charlie: But that's like the things you said on the show becoming about the limes-

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: -like it became-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -about the clipboard like-

Glenn: Yeah. And for me, it's about the blazer, right? Do I get-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -do I get to wear a blazer for this? Just being excited to wear a blazer and like being almost entirely focused on the fit of the blazer. You know-

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: -more than, you know, soliciting a bribe or actually when, it's like, it, you know, and I do, that is something that we have continued on the show that I- [laughs] that I very much enjoyed.

Charlie: There's a funny sou-

Glenn: Foxing on the wrong thing.

Charlie: -funny sound thing that we did. Rob, uh, you won't remember this 'cause you didn't watch the episode. But, um-

Megan: [laughs].

Charlie: [chuckles] where we, where you're trying to stop a baby carriage you want- you want-

Glenn: Oh, yes.

Charlie: -you want Glenn to kiss this baby. You're in a mall and you should watch it. Um, and-

Rob: It's-it's good? Funny?

Glenn: It's pretty good.

Charlie: Yeah. Uh, yeah, it's- it's pretty good. Um-

Rob: [chuckles].

Charlie: -and this woman is like, "No, no, thanks. I don't think I want this guy to kiss the baby." And you keep stopping the-the-- What is it called?

Glenn: Yeah. The baby carriage.

Charlie: Carriage?

Glenn: Yeah. Um-

Megan: Stroller.

Charlie: Stroller.

Glenn: Stroller.

Charlie: Stroller. Yeah. It's been a minute.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Stopping the stroller with your foot.

Rob: Pram.

Charlie: And each time we're adding a nice little, [ee] you know [arr].

Glenn: Yeah. We added a sound effect of your foot, like, [goch] like stopping it each time 'cause there was no sound in the thing and we just, we found it very funny, like you were doing this funny, like little foot turn-

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: -that was just very amusing.

Charlie: And it works. We get, you know, we get a-

Glenn: There was a scene where, uh, where I'm doing George Bush hands.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Right? Like this.

Charlie: Those are- those are really good [laughs].

Glenn: George Bush hands.

Charlie: [laughs].

Rob: That's what Bill Clinton did that too.

Charlie: But that's the thi-

Glenn: Oh did Clinton–that’s a common–

Charlie: That's the thing. This used to be the way that we communicated with the-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -with the public.

Glenn: 'Cause it was right. It was-

Rob: -it's unoffensive.

Charlie: I'm not to put my finger but I put the-

Glenn: No, no, no. You can't-

Charlie: -tip of my thumb on you [laughs].

Rob: Yeah.

Glenn: That's- that's- that's not a-

Charlie: Giving him a thumb?

Rob: That's not good.

Glenn: That's no good.

Charlie: Give him a thumb.

Rob: That's not good.

Charlie: Give him a thumb.

Rob: This is a good-

Glenn: This-

Rob: This is strong-

Charlie: Uh, no. What, so, for the people who aren't watching on the video this, when you're saying this, it's-

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: -it's like a little thumbs up and a full thumbs up.

Glenn: Right.

Rob: Right.

Charlie: It's just like a little pointed thumb that's-

Glenn: That's, and it's not-it's not-

Charlie: -on top of your fist.

Rob: -it's not-it's not a point.

Glenn: No.

Charlie: No.

Rob: And it's not a fi- it's not a fist.

Charlie: No.


Rob: Right? And so-

Charlie: You dont wanna emphasize the fist. The thumb makes the fist-

Rob: The thumb makes-

Charlie: -located.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: The tip of the thumb-

Megan: [laughs].

Charlie: -says, "I'm not scared of this fist."

Glenn: [laughs].

Rob: And it's- and it's-

Charlie: You told that thumb in and man, you're just pointing a fist at me and you're saying-

Rob: That's right.

Charlie: “Oh, no, I don't know.”

Glenn: That was, I mean, so you know that like that was like a curated gestures.

Charlie: Yes.

Glenn: That was somebody- that somebody said like, I want to be-

Rob: That was what I shopped. Oh, 100%.

Glenn: Yeah. Somebody was like- was like doing a lot of this and they were like-

Charlie: Uh-huh.

Glenn: "Well, this feels like you're out of control."

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: Right? This feels like you're angry.

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: This is too accusatory-

Charlie: Mm-hmm.

Glenn: -uh, but if you just do-

Rob: Mm-hmm.

Charlie: If you just do the tip of your thumb there, uh-

Glenn: This has been studied scientifically. If you just did the tip-

Charlie: And don't say guys, you gotta say folks. Say, folks, that's-- that applies to everyone. That's safe. Don't say guys and girls. And-and, uh- and just the tip of your thumb there. Just a little thu-- see now that's too much thumb. That's a thumbs up, okay? Get it in.

Glenn: Can't give yourself a thumbs up.

Charlie: Get that thumb in. Okay, you're getting it too high again there, Bill.


It was Bill, right? Who had it first?

Rob: I-I-I believe Clinton was the one I remember.

Charlie: Do you think he stole it from Bob Dole because Bob Dole had like a pal- had a-- he had like a palsied hand, right?

Rob: Yeah, but he always had a pen in it.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, he'd stuck a pen in there to- so it looked like it, he's, he was doing this on purpose.

Rob: Yeah.

Charlie: Yeah.

Glenn: Yeah, he wanted it--yeah.

Charlie: And then, you know, Bill was like, "Well, gee whiz that is pretty sweet how he's got that pen in there." And I- and they're like, "Bill, you can't also have a pen," and saying, "He's got a pen. I should have a pen." And so what just- what about the tip of your thumb there?

Rob: Maybe that's what it was.

Glenn: What if you're doing that but you don't have a pen?

Charlie: You have an invisible pen.

Glenn: Yes.

Charlie: That's what it is. Two invisible pens in your hands.


This is how-

Glenn: That's the direction.

Charlie: -this is how we communicated in public, two invisible pens.


Rob: What do I do with my dick? [laughter] Where do I pick-- Where would I put-

Glenn: Where do I put my dick?

Charlie: We would prefer you keep that to yourself. Oh impossible.

Rob: Now, what did I become president?

Charlie: Just purely impossible.


Glenn: Why did I become president?


Rob: I became president-

Charlie: You make a, you make a fair point, Mr. President.

Glenn: So why did I become president?

Charlie: If you could just keep it in your pants to 4 to 8 years, "Ah, 4 to 8 years. You keep your dick in your pants for 4 to 8 years.


I'd like to see you try that."


Okay, well.

Rob: But we're all doing it, sir.

Glenn: Uhm, uhm, oh my God.

Rob: Well, you ain’t the president. Well that’s true.

Glenn: Another, uh, another unscripted, uh, moment in this episode was you smashing the videotape at the end.

Charlie: Oh, yeah.

Glenn: Yeah.

Charlie: Uh--

Rob: And oh, and also like the-the--

Charlie: The head-the head bop thing we're doing.

Glenn: Yeah, I don't remember-I don't remember how that started but I think it was just in that one take and it was, uh, it was very funny to me, um--

Charlie: I found it very funny when you just go back to reading your paper and you just say like, "Yeah, 'cause I'm-I'm not doing it, or whatever," very casually.

Glenn: Yeah, so casual. Like as casual as could be, like basically telling you that, like I- uh, um, I'm not doing it anymore and I don't care that it's ruining your life. That you lost your stupid Garbage Pail Kids.

Charlie: The episode works. You know, it holds up.

Glenn: It's funny. I-I liked it.

Charlie: I- I'd be happy for anyone to see that and not embarrassed by it or anything.

Glenn: Absolutely.

Rob: I haven't seen it so I won't comment on that. I beli- I believe this- at this podcast's episodes been fun.

Charlie: Listen, I think-I think you have to watch it.

Rob: Okay.

Charlie: Because I do think part of-

Rob: Yes, I agree.

Charlie: -getting to the end of this is that we have all re-watched every single episode we've done. And sort of analyzed them and even if we're not discussing it live in this thing, just watch it because I don't want, you know, when we get to the end of it, we're like, "Well, we watched some of them, not all of us."

Rob: 100%

Glenn: Rob, you're getting a lot of good feedback from us today about your performance.

Charlie: It's positive feedback.

Glenn: About your performance on the podcast and sort of what's expected of you.

Rob: Okay.

Glenn: Um, are you taking it in?

Rob: The question is am I gonna implement this?

Glenn: Are you gonna implement it? Do you fe-- Are you open to this feedback? Are you, uh, do you feel as though you're being dictated to? Uh, 'cause I know you like to be in charge, and sometimes, you know, you're not.

Rob: Okay, so what's the question?

Glenn: Are you-are you-are you accepting our feedback?

Charlie: Glenn, try it with your thumb.

Glenn: Oh, sorry.


Are you able to take this feedback and accept it?

Charlie: Meg, how do those thumbs make you feel?


Rob: No, why?


[End Credits]


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